Capacitance of a cylindric capacitor (only a piece)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the capacitance of a non-symmetric piece of a cylindrical capacitor, specifically a 30-degree segment of a 10 cm high capacitor. Participants explore different methods and considerations for addressing the complexities introduced by the lack of symmetry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to calculate the capacitance of a 30-degree segment of a cylindrical capacitor, suggesting that the electric field should not be treated as in a symmetric cylindrical capacitor.
  • Another participant proposes that if the gap between the plates is small compared to other dimensions, a parallel plate approximation or a modified cylindrical capacitor approach could be used, suggesting dividing the capacitance of a full cylinder by 12.
  • A third participant mentions the method of moments as a more comprehensive solution that accounts for fringe fields, referencing specific texts that provide details on this method, though noting it is more complex than previous suggestions.

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Participants present multiple competing views on how to approach the problem, with no consensus on a single method for calculating the capacitance of the non-symmetric cylindrical capacitor segment.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the applicability of standard cylindrical capacitor formulas due to the asymmetry introduced by the 30-degree segment, and the discussion includes references to specific texts for further exploration of the topic.

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Hi..
I´ve been trying to solve this problem for a couple of weeks and I need fresh ideas...it´s a 30 degree piece of a 10 cm high cylindric capacitor..how can I calculate its capacitance if it stopped to be symmetric?From my point of view the field between the 2 plates shouldn´t be calculated the same way we use for the cylindric capacitor..anyway..if the field can´t be calculated that way then I think it gets to complicated to do it...
Thanks for any idea (as long as it´s good)
 
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This is a good question. If the field gap is very small relative to the other dimensions of the capacitor plate, the fringe field is small, and you can use a parallel plate capacitor approximation, or use the cylindrical capacitor solution for a 360 degree capacitor, and divide the capacitance by 12. As a last resort, look at the problems at the end of chapter 4 in Smythe "Static and Dynamic Electrricity" 3rd Ed. for problems that calculate the edge correction for bulging fields.
 
thanks Bob..that was very kind of you
 
If you want to go all out you can also try a method of moments solution. Harrington's book or Gibson's book both give good details on how to solve electromagnetic and electrostatic problems using the method of moments. They both have the problem of a charged plate. This solution will take into effect things like fringe fields and such but will be much more involved than the approximations that Bob has suggested.
 

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