Car turning on a bank (circular motion problem)

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A racecar on a 15% bank is analyzed for its circular motion at 225 km/h and a mass of 1450 kg. The discussion highlights the challenge of solving for the radius of curvature and the coefficient of static friction due to having two unknowns in a single equation. It emphasizes that the force of static friction cannot be assumed to equal the coefficient of static friction times the normal force unless the surfaces are on the verge of sliding. Additionally, the direction of static friction may vary; it could act up slope if the car's speed is insufficient for a frictionless turn. More information is deemed necessary to fully resolve the problem.
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Homework Statement


A racecar is turning on a bank inclined at 15%. It's speed is 225 km/h and it's mass is 1450kg.
1. Calculate the radius of curvature
2. Calculate the centripetal acceleration.
3. If the car mantains circular traction, what is the magnitude of the force of static friction
4. What is the coefficient of static friction.


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The Attempt at a Solution


Is it just me or is there too many unknowns to be able to solve this question? (The answers are supposed to be actual numbers, not expressions in terms of unknowns)

So , I will have the force of gravity pointing straight down, I will have the Normal Force pointing perpendicular to the bank, and I will have the static friction force (fs) pointing parallel to the bank towards the centre.

So my Fy's are supposed to balance so we have:
Ny - fy - mg = 0
Ncosθ - μNsinθ - mg = 0
N (cosθ - μsinθ) = mg

And for Fx we have
fx + Nx = mv^2/R
μNcosθ + Nsinθ = mv^2/R

N(μcosθ + sinθ) = mv^2/R
plug in the N i got from the Fy equations:

g(μcosθ + sinθ) / (cosθ - μsinθ) = v^2/R

Now, I'm somehow supposed to provide the radius of curvature, and μ, (centripetl acceleration and magnitude of friction will then just come from those 2), but this is a single equation with 2 unknowns, how can i possibly be able to figure out both?
 
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I would agree with you that more information is needed to solve this problem.

In addition, I should point out that you are not justified in saying that the force of static friction is equal to the coefficient of static friction times the normal force. This is the case only if the two surfaces in contact are on the verge of sliding past each other. There is no language in the problem saying that this is the case.

Finally, the direction of the force of static friction is not necessarily down slope. If the speed is low enough (lower than what is necessary for the car to make it round the curve on a friction-free road) then static friction up slope is needed to maintain the car on track.
 
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