Can Arsenic Kill Silicon-Based Lifeforms?

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In summary, arguement between friends about whether arsenic which kills carbon based lifeforms would kill silicon based lifeforms. Arsenic is a toxic element which has various effects on living systems. It is likely that silicon based life forms would be affected by arsenic.
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Me and a friend are having alittle argument about whether arsenic which kills carbon based life forms would kill silicon based lifeforms. I think it still would kill silicon based lifeforms but he thinks it won't, can someone please help me. Thank you
 
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The reasons arsenic is toxic, are varied. Given this, it is hard to imagine that we can say with any certainty that it would or wouldn't be toxic for silicon based life forms.

http://books.nap.edu/books/0309063337/html/193.html
Mechanisms of Toxicity
In this chapter, the subcommittee summarizes what is known about the mechanisms of toxicity for arsenic. The chapter is divided into two major sections-cancer and noncancer effects. In the cancer section, the subcommittee summarizes results from in vivo and in vitro bioassays designed to investigate the role of arsenic and metabolites of arsenic, monomethylarsonic acid (MMA) and dimethylarsinic acid (DMA), as tumor promoters and initiators. That summary is followed by a discussion of the data on modes of action for arsenic-induced carcinogenesis and how those data can help delineate the slope of the dose-response curve at low exposure concentrations. In the noncancer section, the subcommittee summarizes what is known about the mechanisms of action leading to noncancer effects. The potential relationships between mechanisms of arsenic-induced cell injury or cell death and carcinogenic processes are discussed with particular attention to the inter-relationships between arsenic-induced formation of reactive oxygen species or oxidative stress and chromosomal damage in target-cell populations. The roles of other documented arsenic-induced cellular responses, such as alterations in the heme biosynthetic pathway, alterations in cellular gene expression, and inhibition of DNA-repair enzyme activities, are discussed as components of the broad spectrum of cellular responses to arsenic exposure.

Also see the various analyses of the effects of arsenic implied here: http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/bookdescription.cws_home/681046/description#description

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Enzymology and toxicology of inorganic arsenic (H.V. Aposhian, R.A. Zakharyan et al.). Structural proteomics of arsenic transport and detoxification (Z. Liu, R. Mukhopadhyay et al.). A novel S-adenosylmethionine-dependent methyltransferase from rat liver cytosol catalyzes the formation of methylated arsenicals (S.B. Waters, S. Lin et al.). Metabolism of arsenic and gene transcription regulation: Mechanism of AP-1 activation by methylated trivalent arsenicals (Z. Drobná, I. Jaspers, M. Stýblo). Effect of antioxidants on the papilloma response and liver glutathione modulation mediated by arsenic in Tg.AC transgenic mice (K. Trouba, A. Nyska et al.). Application of filter arrays in the study of arsenic toxicity and carcinogenesis (Jie Liu, Hua Chen et al.). Regulation of redox and DNA repair genes by arsenic: Low dose protection against oxidative stress? (E.T. Snow, Yu Hu et al.). Carcinogenicity of dimethylarsinic acid (DMA) (S.M. Cohen, C. Le et al.). Urinary speciation of sodium arsenate in folate receptor knockout mice (O. Spiegelstein, X. Lu et al.). Some chemical properties underlying arsenic's biological activity (K.T. Kitchin, K. Wallace, P. Andrewes). Arsenic metabolism in hyperbilirubinemic rats: distribution and excretion in relation to transformation (K.T. Suzuki, T. Tomita et al.). Incorporating mechanistic insights in a Pbpk model for arsenic (E.M. Kenyon, M.F. Hughes et al.).

In short, given the myriad ways that arsenic affects living systems (oxidative stress, chemical alterations to cellular macromolecules, competitive interference with biochemical pathways) it is premature to conclude that silicon based life forms would be unaffected by the element.
 
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I have to agree with pattylou. Given the vast array of toxic effects caused by arsenic, ie, neurotoxicity, hepatotoxicity, vascular disease, alterations in sulfhydryl-containing enzymes, disruption of cellular respiration and mitochondrial function, carcinogenicity, etc, it is more likely than not that arsenic would be toxic to silica-based life as well.
 
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thank you both, I will redirect my friend here and then he I will win this time. It is sort of a contest that started with this arguemnet that the "loser" of the argument give the "winner" a quarter, small but a prize none the less.
 

1. Can arsenic be toxic to silicon-based lifeforms?

Yes, arsenic can be toxic to silicon-based lifeforms. Arsenic is a chemical element that is highly toxic to most forms of life, including silicon-based organisms. It can interfere with the cellular processes of these organisms and cause their death.

2. How does arsenic affect silicon-based lifeforms?

Arsenic can affect silicon-based lifeforms in several ways. It can disrupt their metabolic processes, damage their DNA, and interfere with their cellular structure. This can lead to the death of the organism.

3. Can silicon-based lifeforms build a resistance to arsenic?

It is possible for silicon-based lifeforms to build a resistance to arsenic, but it would require significant evolutionary adaptations. Arsenic is a highly toxic element, and it is unlikely that silicon-based organisms would naturally develop a resistance to it.

4. Are there any known silicon-based lifeforms that are immune to arsenic?

There are currently no known silicon-based lifeforms that are immune to arsenic. While some organisms may have a higher tolerance for arsenic, no organism has been found to be completely immune to its toxic effects.

5. How does the toxicity of arsenic compare to other elements for silicon-based lifeforms?

The toxicity of arsenic is relatively high for silicon-based lifeforms. It is considered one of the most toxic elements for most forms of life, including silicon-based organisms. Other elements that can be toxic to silicon-based lifeforms include lead, cadmium, and mercury.

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