Carnot Heat Engine, thermodynamics

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The discussion revolves around a Carnot heat engine, focusing on its efficiency and the relationship between the heat extracted from the source and the temperature of the heat source. Participants are exploring the calculations related to the engine's performance and the implications of temperature conversions in thermodynamic equations.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of heat extracted from the heat source using the efficiency formula. There is uncertainty regarding the implications of exhaust temperature and how to approach the calculation for the heat source temperature. Questions arise about converting temperatures to Kelvin and the correct interpretation of efficiency in relation to the Carnot cycle.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their calculations and seeking clarification on specific steps. Some guidance has been offered regarding temperature conversion and the use of efficiency in determining the heat source temperature, but there is still exploration of the concepts involved.

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A carnot engine has an efficiency of 59% and performs 2.5x104 J of work in each cycle. a) how much heat does the engine extract from its heat source in each cycle?
b) suppose the engine exhausts heat at room temp (20oC) what is the temperature of the heat source?




I know that the efficiency of a heat engine is e=W/Qh or for a carnot engine e =1-Tc/Th



3. solution
I managed to find the solution for the first part which was 0.59=W/Th(W=2.5x104J)
and I just solved for Th which came out to be 4.2x104J

but I'm not sure how I go about solving for part b, I was thinking that since it said the engine exhausts heat at room temp, so does that mean that Th-Tc=20? or do I have to convert that temperature to internal energy and solve? I'm not sure I'm pretty confused on what it means, can anyone help
 
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I think what this means is Tc=20 C, efficiency stays the same what is the new Th. See if that works for you.
 
ya that worked, thanks!
 
theown1 said:
I managed to find the solution for the first part which was 0.59=W/Th(W=2.5x104J)
and I just solved for Th which came out to be 4.2x104J
Careful. I think you meant Qh not Th.

but I'm not sure how I go about solving for part b, I was thinking that since it said the engine exhausts heat at room temp, so does that mean that Th-Tc=20? or do I have to convert that temperature to internal energy and solve? I'm not sure I'm pretty confused on what it means, can anyone help
First convert temperatures to Kelvin. What is 20C in K?

Look at your equation for efficiency (as a function of Th and Tc). You have Tc (in Kelvin), and you have the efficiency so you can easily find Th.

AM
 

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