Casting a Large, Sharp Shadow Through Lace

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenge of casting a large, sharp shadow through a piece of lace onto a wall. Participants explore various techniques and the underlying physics involved in achieving the desired shadow quality, including the effects of light source distance, lens usage, and material properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Alejandra describes her experiments with different light sources and setups, noting that distance from the wall affects shadow sharpness.
  • Some participants suggest that diffraction may be causing the blurriness, recommending the use of blue or violet light to potentially reduce this effect.
  • Others propose using coarser lace or thicker threads to improve shadow definition.
  • A suggestion is made to use a lens to image the lace onto the wall, which could enhance shadow sharpness.
  • One participant recommends using an overhead projector for optimal results, while another suggests a simple cardboard hole to reduce light source size for sharper shadows.
  • Alejandra reports trying a blue LED light and a hole in a card, noting improvements but still facing challenges with shadow clarity.
  • A suggestion to use a laser pointer is made, highlighting its potential for creating crisp shadows even when broadened with a lens.
  • Alejandra later confirms success with a strong light directed through a small hole, realizing the impact of light angles on shadow clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and suggestions, with no consensus on a single method being the best. Various approaches are proposed, and while some techniques show promise, the discussion remains open to further experimentation and refinement.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of light source characteristics, material properties, and setup configurations, but specific limitations or assumptions in their experiments are not fully detailed.

Who May Find This Useful

Artists, educators, and individuals interested in optics, shadow casting, and experimental techniques in lighting may find this discussion relevant.

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I am an artist. I am trying to cast a large sharp (in focus) shadow through a piece of lace onto a wall. It either turns out large and blurry if it is far from the wall, or sharp and small if it is closer to the wall. I have tried the following experiments:

1. Increased the focus and direction of the lamp. This improved the contrast of the shadow, but not the sharpness.

2. Reflected the light with a mirror. This allowed the piece of lace to be further from the wall, but in order to be sharp it still needed to be small, a 1 to1 size ratio.

3. Tried to focus the shadow with an eyeglass lens. This did nothing. I don't have a magnifying glass, but this is my next experiment. Perhaps also a convex lens?

Does anyone have any advice about how to cast a large, in focus shadow with a spotlight? What physics is going on here?

Thanks,
Alejandra
 
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You're getting diffraction, which bends the light at different angles.
You might try blue or violet light, which has a shorter wavelength.
If that doesn't help, you would need thicker thread, maybe with a larger space between the threads.
 
Blue light

Thanks for your response. Will any blue filter do? What about blue LED?
 
Try it, but it still might be too long a wavelength, in which case you need coarser (probably cheaper) lace.
 
pam said:
You're getting diffraction
Doubtful with no report of coloured fringes; look up "penumbra" then put a card with a very small aperture in front of the lamp beam and try not to put the subject (lace) too close to this aperture (move everything away from the wall instead).
 
If you place a lens in between the lace and wall, such that the lens images the lace onto the wall, the outline of the 'shadow' should be sharp.
 
If alejandra could get access to an overhead projector, I think that would do exactly what is wanted (and exactly what Andy is suggesting). Just place the lace on the projector where you would normally place a transparency.

Otherwise, a simple solution might be a hole in a piece of cardboard held in front of the lamp. Reduce the effective size of the source to get a sharper shadow. Experiment with hole size to find an optimimum; too small a hole will not provide much illumination.
 
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Thanks everyone for your replies.

No colored fringes, just blurry, same shadow color. I tried a blue LED light. It looks better, but still a little blurry. I tried a hole in a card, but the light isn't strong enough to make much of a shadow through the hole, will get a stronger light and try again.

I thought of an overhead projector, or a video feed connected to a video projector, but the extra gear takes the fun out of a simple, effective set up.
 
What if you used a laser pointer as the light source? Even if you broadened it with a lens so it covered a larger portion of the lace, you'd still have a very bright but very small light source, making for crisp shadows.
 
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Thanks!

I tried directing a strong light through a small hole. It works, the shadow is sharp and big. I didn´t realize that even a spotlight sends light out at many angles, enough to blur a shadow.

Thanks again everyone for your responses.

Alejandra
 
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alejandra said:
... It works ...

Awesome! Another victory for physics! :smile:

Glad we could help out.
 

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