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WannabeNewton
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Dogs ##\gg## cats, no question about it. A dog is a best friend. A cat is just a liability.
Matterwave said:In my experience, since I never owned cats or dogs, whenever I visit someone who owns cats, the cats are always hiding somewhere. Whereas if I visit someone who owns dogs, the dogs come out and want you to pet them.
Which is strange, since I assumed there are more liberals than conservatives in PF, and liberals prefer cats over dogs, and conservatives the other way around (at least in the US; not sure in the rest of the world):StatGuy2000 said:Interesting that PF seems to have more dog-lovers than cat-lovers.
Nope. Your engineering types favor the Republican type economy, which is more likely to spend big bucks on high tech.WWGD said:Which is strange, since I assumed there are more liberals than conservatives in PF...
Or we're inveterate "Do-It-Yourself"-ers.zoobyshoe said:Nope. Your engineering types favor the Republican type economy, which is more likely to spend big bucks on high tech.
Ryan_m_b said:Also also also a cat recently did this to me. Cats suck
Borek said:Sissy :tongue:
16:18 and 18 "both" votes. Doesn't look like a significant difference.StatGuy2000 said:Interesting that PF seems to have more dog-lovers than cat-lovers.
If they would do that, they would rarely come back at all as the world is huge.zoobyshoe said:Outdoor cats don't seem to be loyal to an owner.
A cat-tracking experiment: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22821639mfb said:If they would do that, they would rarely come back at all as the world is huge.
Ban him! :DShyan said:Strange, the only one who voted for neither is me!
Greg Bernhardt said:Ban him! :D
The tracking collars in AlephZero's link demonstrate most cats aren't comfortable going more than a few block from their home base.mfb said:If they would do that, they would rarely come back at all as the world is huge.
Over the years I've had many visiting cats who are clearly not feral (well fed and people friendly) come into my place and check it out. One or two seemed to want to move in. I really think that if the food, accommodations, and company are more to their liking, they'll relocate without regrets.For example, we saw cats going into houses other than their own.
zoobyshoe said:The tracking collars in AlephZero's link demonstrate most cats aren't comfortable going more than a few block from their home base.
I'm pretty sure his point was that they're loyal to one owner.micromass said:Which is exactly mfb's point.
And the tracking data show several examples of that, at least within the precision of the GPS data.zoobyshoe said:I'm pretty sure his point was that they're loyal to one owner.
How does the data show loyalty? It shows them going into other people's houses.mfb said:And the tracking data show several examples of that, at least within the precision of the GPS data.
zoobyshoe said:How does the data show loyalty? It shows them going into other people's houses.
micromass said:It shows that their territory is around the house of their human.
Camping out in the vicinity of, and never straying too far from, an extremely reliable source of food, water, and shelter, shouldn't be confused with loyalty to a human. The fact is, cats always seem to be checking out alternate sources of necessities as well.micromass said:It shows that their territory is around the house of their human. Furthermore, they spend most of the time near of in the house of their human. So they do acknowledge that it is "their home". I would think that is loyalty.
If that would rule out loyalty, no human would ever be loyal.zoobyshoe said:How does the data show loyalty? It shows them going into other people's houses.
No one questioned the existence of cats without an owner (as seen by the cat or by humans). The discussion is about "do loyal cats exist".AlephZero said:You could argue that is selection bias in the experiment. If you set up an experiment by asking the humans who live in a village about their cats and whether they want to participate in it, you are excluding any cats in the area which no humans consider to be "their cat", or cats that have stopped visiting "their human" for a while for reasons known only to the cat (like the cat in my previous post that went AWOL for a year).
zoobyshoe said:Camping out in the vicinity of, and never straying too far from, an extremely reliable source of food, water, and shelter, shouldn't be confused with loyalty to a human.
epenguin said:True - nobody says mice are loyal.