Cave ecology isolated for over 5 mllion years

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The discussion centers around the discovery of a unique cave ecology in Romania that has been isolated for over 5 million years. Participants explore the implications of this find for understanding biodiversity, species evolution, and potential applications in addressing greenhouse gas buildup.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the discovery, suggesting it could significantly impact our understanding of ecological systems and species interactions.
  • One participant highlights the potential for this cave ecology to inform strategies for countering greenhouse gas accumulation on Earth.
  • Another participant notes the variety of species found, including endemic species and the unique food chain based on chemosynthesis involving methane- and sulfur-oxidizing bacteria.
  • There is mention of specific species, such as the waterscorpion, raising curiosity about their adaptations in isolation.
  • Links to additional resources are shared to provide further context and information about the cave's ecology and biogeochemical processes.

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Participants generally agree on the significance of the discovery, but there are no explicit resolutions or consensus on the broader implications or applications of the findings.

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Some claims about the ecological processes and species interactions remain dependent on further research and may involve assumptions about the cave's ecosystem dynamics.

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Surely this is a huge, huge find, is it not??

A living ecology, isolated for over 5 million years?

http://ecowatch.com/2016/05/24/movile-cave-romania/

Scientists Uncover Array of Strange Animals in Cave That Has Been Sealed Off for 5.5 Million Years

 
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This is a fascinating discovery that could just possibly revolutionize our understanding of how to counter the build-up of greenhouse gases on Earth. And of course it is so exciting to observe all of these new species that have had little to no contact with the Outside world whatsoever before now.

I also found another source that also talks about the topic: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150904-the-bizarre-beasts-living-in-romanias-poison-cave

My personal favorite is the waterscorpion, it causes me a great deal of wonder to think just what venom it utilizes without any outside contact. :smile:
 
Wiki says this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movile_Cave
Forty-eight species, among them leeches, spiders, scorpions and insects, were found inside the cave, of which 33 are endemic. The food chain is based on chemosynthesis in the form of methane- and sulfur-oxidising bacteria, which in turn release nutrients for fungi and other bacteria. This forms microbial mats on the cave walls and the surface of lakes and ponds which are grazed on by some of the animals. The grazers are then preyed on by predatory species

http://www.jcmurrell.co.uk/cave.html
has a model of the biogeochemical process.
http://www.jcmurrell.co.uk/images/movile_cave_interactions.jpg
Interesting stuff.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Surely this is a huge, huge find, is it not??

A living ecology, isolated for over 5 million years?
Agreed! Thanks for the link.
 
256bits said:
Interesting stuff.
Very!
 

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