Center of mass of an equilateral triangle (Kleppner)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the center of mass of an equilateral triangle with a given side length. The problem involves integrating to determine the coordinates of the center of mass using a defined coordinate system.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the integration process for calculating the center of mass, questioning the setup of the coordinate system and the limits of integration. Some participants discuss the implications of symmetry in simplifying the problem.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the integration limits and the geometric interpretation of the triangle's height in relation to the base. Participants are engaging with each other's reasoning and clarifying concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of different coordinate placements and the resulting equations of the triangle's sides, which may affect the integration process. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by the triangle's geometry.

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Homework Statement


Find the center of mass of an equilateral triangle with side ##a##

Homework Equations


## \vec R = \frac{1}{M} \int \vec r \ dm ##

## dm = \frac{M}{A} dx dy ##

## A = \frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}a^2 ##

The Attempt at a Solution



I set a pair of orthogonal axis ##(\vec x,\vec y)## so that one side of the triangle lies on the ##x## axis, and one vertex is at the origin.
I find the following position for the center of mass:
##R_x = \frac{1}{A} (\int_0^{\frac{a}{2}}\int_0^{\sqrt{3}x} x \ dy\ dx + \int_\frac{a}{2}^{a}\int_0^{\sqrt{3}(a-x)} x \ dy\ dx ) = \frac{a}{2}##
##R_y = \frac{1}{A} (\int_0^{\frac{a}{2}}\int_0^{\sqrt{3}x} y \ dy\ dx + \int_\frac{a}{2}^{a}\int_0^{\sqrt{3}(a-x)} y \ dy\ dx ) = \frac{a}{2\sqrt{3}}##

Do you think it is correct?
 
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That's the correct answer. It would have been easier to put the apex of the triangle on the y-axis: then, by symmetry, R_x = 0.
 
I did not think about that! Thank you!
 
geoffrey159 said:
##R_x = \frac{1}{A} (\int_0^{\frac{a}{2}}\int_0^{\sqrt{3}x} x \ dy\ dx + \int_\frac{a}{2}^{a}\int_0^{\sqrt{3}(a-x)} x \ dy\ dx ) = \frac{a}{2}##
##R_y = \frac{1}{A} (\int_0^{\frac{a}{2}}\int_0^{\sqrt{3}x} y \ dy\ dx + \int_\frac{a}{2}^{a}\int_0^{\sqrt{3}(a-x)} y \ dy\ dx ) = \frac{a}{2\sqrt{3}}##

Please let me ask: I think I understood why the upper term from integration interval is equal to x\sqrt{3}, is the height in function of x, but what is the idea behind the upper term from \int_0^{\sqrt{3}(a-x)} x \ dy?
 
duarthiago said:
Please let me ask: I think I understood why the upper term from integration interval is equal to x\sqrt{3}, is the height in function of x, but what is the idea behind the upper term from \int_0^{\sqrt{3}(a-x)} x \ dy?

What are the equations of the two lines, which intersect at the apex, forming the sides of this triangle?
 
SteamKing said:
What are the equations of the two lines, which intersect at the apex, forming the sides of this triangle?
Oh, of course, it would be something like a piecewise function where x \sqrt{3} if 0 \leq x \leq \frac{a}{2} and a \sqrt{3} - x \sqrt{3} if \frac{a}{2} < x \leq a. Thank you for your answer.
 

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