Center of mass of composite body

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the center of mass of a composite body, specifically addressing the geometric shapes involved and the associated area calculations. It includes attempts to verify calculations and clarify misunderstandings regarding the formulas used.

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  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • The initial poster requests verification of their calculations for the center of mass, having used formulas for various shapes.
  • One participant challenges the calculations for the triangle's center of mass and claims the area calculations are incorrect.
  • Another participant notes that the provided table lacks data, containing mostly formulas.
  • A participant asserts that the triangle is not equilateral and believes their formula is correct, while also defending their area calculations for other shapes.
  • Concerns are raised about the calculated y-position of the triangle's center of mass being outside the object and the x-position being incorrect.
  • Specific errors in area calculations for the square and the hole are highlighted, with a participant stating the area should be 1 instead of 1.5.
  • A later reply acknowledges the errors in the area calculations and suggests they have been corrected.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the accuracy of the area calculations and the positions of the center of mass. There is no consensus on the correctness of the initial calculations, and multiple competing views remain regarding the formulas used.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions about the shapes and their dimensions, as well as unresolved mathematical steps related to the area calculations and center of mass positions.

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Homework Statement



In the image below, calculate the center of mass (x-bar,y-bar) of the composite body.

Homework Equations



I've used all of the equations for area for the shapes needed (triangle, square, circle).

The Attempt at a Solution



I have attached my calculations and would appreciate if someone could verify that they are correct.

Thanks!
 

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x and y for the triangle look strange, and your area calculations are wrong.
 
The table in your figure contains mostly formulas with no data.
 
@Steamking: I've attached both the images with formulas and with the answers to the calculations to view.

@mrb: I believe it is NOT an equilateral triangle therefore the formula should be correct. And the area calculations for the rest of the shapes I've verified to be correct as well.
 

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aaronfue said:
@mrb: I believe it is NOT an equilateral triangle therefore the formula should be correct.
Who is mrb?
Of course it is not equilateral, it has 1 and sqrt(5/4) as sidelengths.
Judging from your formulas in columns F and G and rows 3 to 5, columns D and E are supposed to have the center of mass position of the geometric object. y=1.75 is certainly not the y-position of its center of mass (it is outside the whole object), and x=0.5 is wrong as well.

And the area calculations for the rest of the shapes I've verified to be correct as well.
Consider the square, for example: It has a height of 1 and a width of 1, so its area is 1. Your formula, however, gives 1.5. Even worse: It gives the same area for the hole, which is obviously wrong.
 
Sorry...mfb.

I did notice those errors for the areas and they should be correct...now.
 
That looks good now.
 

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