Challenges and Solutions for Measuring Microamp DC Current with Hall Sensors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and potential solutions for measuring microamp DC current using Hall sensors and other sensor technologies. Participants explore various sensor types, their sensitivities, and practical considerations for low-current measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes difficulty in finding commercially available Hall sensors that can accurately measure in the microamp range and questions the reasons for this limitation.
  • Another participant suggests that background electrical noise and the Earth's magnetic field may hinder low-current measurements.
  • A suggestion is made to consider using a small fluxgate magnetometer with feedback for improved sensitivity.
  • Some participants mention LEM sensors, which are more suited for milliamp measurements, and discuss increasing sensitivity through multiple turns in the core.
  • There are proposals to build a custom solution using an isolated power supply, a sense resistor, and an instrumentation amplifier, though this may be large and costly.
  • Fluxgate sensors are highlighted as being significantly more sensitive than Hall effect sensors, with references to specific evaluation boards available for purchase.
  • One participant expresses interest in the fluxgate sensors and their performance with DC current, noting their capability for isolated measurements.
  • A mention of using low noise amplifiers from Keithley and the potential for a lock-in amplifier to reduce costs, with the caveat that this would require converting DC to AC.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best sensor technologies for measuring microamp DC current, with no consensus on a single solution. Some favor fluxgate sensors for their sensitivity, while others discuss the limitations of Hall sensors and the feasibility of custom solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the challenges posed by electrical noise and the need for isolation in certain applications. The discussion includes references to specific products and technologies, but no definitive conclusions are reached regarding the best approach.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for engineers, researchers, and hobbyists interested in low-current measurement techniques, sensor technology, and the challenges associated with detecting microamp DC currents.

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Are there commercial hall sensors that can detect current in the microamp range?
I have been looking for sensors to detect DC current in the microamp range. I've been looking into hall sensors. I found an IEEE papers talking about one they designed, so I'm not too sure they're commercially available in that low of a current range. I haven't found any on DigiKey anyway. I know it gets harder to measure accurately as the signals get smaller. Is there any other reason sensors on the market don't seem to go this low? Or does anyone know or any that can detect this low? Ideas are greatly appreciated.

I will be inserting this on the return line so it can be low voltage.
 
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Maybe these guys https://www.lem.com/. Not really uA though, more like mA. You can increase the sensitivity with multiple turns through the core.
 
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I assume you are needing isolation.

Of course you could build your own with an isolated PS, a sense resistor, and an isolated instrumentation amp. It would be kind of big, and expensive, but that's how you'll get exactly what you want.
 
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Fluxgate sensors are significantly more sensitive than a Hall effect sensors.

"For the limited 1000:1 range of around 10uA to 10mA the circuit functioned well. It allows for fully isolated measurements from DC to 10kHz or beyond."
https://community.element14.com/cha...g-a-fluxgate-magnetometer-based-current-probe

There is an evaluation board available from AliExpress for AU$65.29
DRV425EVM DRV425 Open Loop Magnetic Field Sensing Evaluation Board.
You may be able to get one direct from TI.

There is also a DRV421EVM Closed loop Magnetic Field Sensing Evaluation Board.
 
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DaveE said:
I assume you are needing isolation.

Of course you could build your own with an isolated PS, a sense resistor, and an isolated instrumentation amp. It would be kind of big, and expensive, but that's how you'll get exactly what you want.
I'll check into the LEM. 10 mA is higher than I wanted, but it's one of the higher sensitivities I've seen. I don't necessarily need isolation, I'm interested in this over a CVR since I don't have to break the circuit.
 
Baluncore said:
Fluxgate sensors are significantly more sensitive than a Hall effect sensors.

"For the limited 1000:1 range of around 10uA to 10mA the circuit functioned well. It allows for fully isolated measurements from DC to 10kHz or beyond."
https://community.element14.com/cha...g-a-fluxgate-magnetometer-based-current-probe

There is an evaluation board available from AliExpress for AU$65.29
DRV425EVM DRV425 Open Loop Magnetic Field Sensing Evaluation Board.
You may be able to get one direct from TI.

There is also a DRV421EVM Closed loop Magnetic Field Sensing Evaluation Board.
These are interesting. I've never heard of these, so thanks for sharing. This looks like something I may be able to use. I'd be interested in seeing what the current looks like with DC current, but it looked ok up to 10 kHz.
 
EE4me said:
I have been looking for sensors to detect DC current in the microamp range.
Dr Transport said:
You might be able to do it less expensively with a lock-in-amplifier.
But you would then need to chop the DC current, to convert it to AC, so you could lock to the AC component. That might eliminate a DC offset error in the magnetic field transducer.
 

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