Change in acceleration with change of angle of applied force

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The discussion revolves around the effect of changing the angle of an applied force on the acceleration of a block, specifically in the context of friction and net force calculations. The subject area includes dynamics and forces, particularly focusing on the relationship between applied force, friction, and acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze how an increase in the angle of the applied force affects acceleration, referencing a previous class discussion and contrasting their findings with a provided memorandum. They present a mathematical approach involving net force equations and a graph of the function related to acceleration.
  • Some participants question the implications of the graph presented, particularly regarding the behavior of the block when the angle exceeds certain limits, suggesting a need for constraints on the angle.
  • Others discuss the dependency of the answer on the coefficient of friction, indicating that different values could lead to varying interpretations of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and offering insights into the implications of the original poster's findings. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the relationship between angle, applied force, and friction, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the coefficient of friction in determining the outcome and suggest that angles outside the range of -90 to 90 degrees could lead to complications in the analysis. The original poster's reliance on a specific graph also raises questions about its accuracy in representing the physical scenario.

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Homework Statement
How will the acceleration of the block change if the angle of the applied force is increase by 5 degrees? Write Increase, Decrease or Stay the same.
Relevant Equations
Newton 2, Fnet = ma
friction = N * μ
Untitled Diagram.png

Let ##μ_k## = 0.5
##F_a## = 10 Newtons
##\theta## is the angel of the Applied force.
How will the acceleration of the block change if the angle of the applied force is increase by ##5^o##? Write Increase, Decrease or Stay the same.

Recently we were discussing a question similar to this in class, I believe the acceleration should INCREASE however the memorandum for the question said it would DECREASE. I would like to just confirm my maths is correct (This is not the first time I have seen such a question).

This is my general solution.Let right be positive.

$$F_{net} = ma$$
$$F_{net} = F_{a,x} - f$$
$$ma = F_{a,x} - (N \times μ_k)$$
$$ma = F_a \times cos\theta - ((F_g-F_{a,y}) \times μ_k) $$
$$ma = F_a \times cos\theta - ((F_g-(F_a\times sin\theta)) \times μ_k) $$

As ##\theta## is the only variable changing let's isolate the expressions it is part of.

$$ma = F_a \times cos\theta + F_a\times sin\theta \times μ_k - F_g \times μ_k $$
$$ma = F_a (cos\theta + sin\theta \times μ_k) - F_g \times μ_k $$

lets graph ##(cos\theta + sin\theta \times μ_k) ##
desmos-graph.png

Desmos graph

Looking at the graph we can see ##(cos\theta + sin\theta \times μ_k)##increases from 0 until its maximum at 28.955 degrees from which it starts to decrease.
And as $$a = \frac{F_a (cos\theta + sin\theta \times μ_k) - F_g \times μ_k}m $$

Therefore by increasing the angle of the applied force by 5 degrees the acceleration will INCREASE.
By looking closer at the graph you could see that ##\theta## would need to be greater than 48.76 degrees for the acceleration to Descrease(or less than 5).

Who is Incorrect, the Memo or I?
 
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Your graph, if proportional to acceleration, still shows positive acceleration when θ is > 90 degrees, which seems to imply that the block will move forward when you're applying negative force to it. That intuitively suggests something amiss.
It being positive for a while with a negative θ is OK. A force pulling a bit down can still move the block until the added friction eventually prevents any motion. So the left side of the graph seems ok.
 
Can we create a limit: -90 < ##\theta## < 90. Angels not in this range would imply a negative applied force and then positive friction(if right is still positive) so you would have to change the equation.
 
The answer depends on the value of ##\mu##. For ##\mu = 0.5##, your answer is correct.
 
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@TSny I did include that under the image. Thanks for the confirmation
 
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