Change in rate of a man's shadow length

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The problem involves a man walking along a road and the changing length of his shadow due to a street light positioned across the road. The scenario includes specific measurements of the man's height, walking speed, and the height of the street light, as well as the width of the road.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the geometric relationships involved, particularly using similar triangles to relate the heights and distances. There is uncertainty about the setup and whether certain measurements are relevant to the solution. One participant requests a visual representation to clarify the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to derive the relationship between the variables involved. One participant has provided a detailed approach and calculation, while others are engaging with the problem by suggesting different methods and questioning the assumptions made in the setup.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a specific point in the problem where the man is positioned relative to the street light, which may influence the calculations. The participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem without reaching a definitive consensus on the approach.

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Homework Statement


A man 1.8m tall walks at 1.5m/s along the edge of a road which is 8m wide. A street light 6.3m high is situated on the other side of the road. How fast is the length of the man's shadow changing when he is 8m past the point on the road opposite the light?


Homework Equations


Similar triangles


The Attempt at a Solution



**I'm not sure if I have the picture correct. I drew a big right triangle with one side being 6.3 and the bottom being x and y (I don't think the 8m plays a role in this question?) and I drew a smaller triangle in side and put in 1.8m.

1.8/x = 6.3/ (x+y)
1.8x + 1.8y = 6.3x
1.8y = 4.5x
1.8dy/dx = 4.5 (1.5)
dy/dx = 3.75

The answer is supposed to be 3/(5sqrt(2))

Thank you (:
 
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Could you please show that drawing?

ehild
 
This is such a nice problem, I would not like to let it submerged. Here is the picture, imagine it in 3D. "s" is the length of the shadow when the man (M) has walked x=1.5 t distance from the place opposite to the lamp post L. Write s in terms of x and take the derivative with respect to time.

ehild
 

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Hey guys,

Thank you for the help (: I've solved it as follows:

1.8/s = 6.3/(d+s), d = sqrt(x^2+64)
6.3s = 1.8(x^2+64)^.5 + 1.8s
4.5s = 1.8(x^2 +64)^.5
4.5 ds/dt = 0.9(x^2+64)^-.5(2x)(dx/dt)
4.5 ds/dt = 0.9(8^2 + 64)^-.5(2*8) (1.5)
ds/dt = 0.4242640687 = 3/(5sqrt(2))

Thanks once again (:
 

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