Change in time period of pendulum

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a simple pendulum and examines how an increase in its length by 21% affects its time period. The original poster is seeking to understand the relationship between the change in length and the resulting change in time period.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the time period equation and apply a percentage change approach, but questions the correctness of their result. Other participants suggest alternative methods, including a direct application of percentage increase, and question the validity of approximations used in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different mathematical approaches and questioning the assumptions behind the approximations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of approximations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of using approximations in the context of significant changes in the variable, specifically noting that the assumption of small changes may not hold true in this scenario.

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Homework Statement



Q The length of a simple pendulum executing SHM is increased by 21% .The percentage increase in the time period of the pendulum of increased length is
a) 11%
b) 21%
c)42%
d)10%

Homework Equations



##T = 2\pi\sqrt{\frac{L}{g}}##

The Attempt at a Solution



##T^2 = 4{\pi}^2\frac{L}{g}##

By differentiating the above expression and dividing the resultant equation by the above equation, ##\frac{2dT}{T} = \frac{dL}{L}##

##\frac{2dT}{T}## x ##100 = \frac{dL}{L}## x ##100##

##\frac{dL}{L}## x##100 = 21##

Therefore , ##\frac{dT}{T}## x ##100 = 10.5 ## . But this isn't correct .

Please help me find the error in my approach .

Many Thanks

 
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There is a really easy way to solve this question. If it increased by 21%, How can you put that in the equation.

Lets just say that I am gaining profit of 5% every month. If my original balance is 100$, and I want to know my balance after one month. Well I can just calculate
100 + 100 * 0.05
Which can be 1.05(100)

So you can do the same to the pendulum.

About your equation above how did you derive that equation? can you post your steps?
 
The approximation f(x+Δx)=f(x)+f '(x) Δx can be applied only when Δx/x << 1, which is not true now. Calculate the ratio between the two time periods from the original formula.
 
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ehild said:
The approximation f(x+Δx)=f(x)+f '(x) Δx can be applied only when Δx/x << 1, which is not true now.

Great ! :bow:

ehild said:
only when Δx/x << 1

Should that be Δx →0 ?
 
You know Δx, it is a fixed quantity.
In the limit, lim f(x+Δx)=f(x) when Δx→0.
 
Sorry . I did not understand your reply .
 
Vibhor said:
Great ! :bow:
Should that be Δx →0 ?
No, Δx is a fixed quantity. Ignore my second sentence.
 
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Ok . Thanks .
 

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