Changing Order of Integration in Triple Integrals

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The discussion focuses on changing the order of integration in a triple integral from dx dy dz to dz dy dx. The original integral describes the first octant of a sphere with radius 3, where z ranges from 0 to 3, y from 0 to √(9-z²), and x from 0 to √(9-y²-z²). When changing the order, the limits for z become 0 to √(9-x²-y²), while x retains fixed limits of 0 to 3. The participants emphasize that due to the symmetry of the sphere, the limits of integration remain consistent across different orders. The final expression for the integral in the new order is confirmed as correct.
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Homework Statement



Given

\int{0}{3} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-z^2)}} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-y^2-z^2)}} dx dy dz

express the integral as an equivalent in dz dy dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



From the origial limits z goes from 0 to when x^2 + y^2 <= 9

For dz I have

\int{0}{ sqrt(-x^2-y^2+9)} dz

Is this right so far?
 
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boneill3 said:

Homework Statement



Given

\int{0}{3} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-z^2)}} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-y^2-z^2)}} dx dy dz

express the integral as an equivalent in dz dy dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



From the origial limits z goes from 0 to when x^2 + y^2 <= 9

For dz I have

\int{0}{ sqrt(-x^2-y^2+9)} dz

Is this right so far?
In the original integral z goes from 0 to 3, for each z, y from 0 to \sqrt{9-z^2}, and, for each y and z, x goes from 0 to \sqrt{9- x^2- y^2}.

That last is, of course, the upper hemisphere of x^2+ y^2+ z^2= 9 while the y integral is over the upper semi-circle of y^2+ z^2= 9. Finally the z integral over a radius of that circle and sphere. This is the first "octant" of the sphere of radius 3. Yes, If you change the order of integration so you are integrating with respect to z first, z goes from 0 to \sqrt{9- x^2+ y^2}.

Because of symmetry, this is a very easy problem!
 
For dx

Do you leave the limit as \int{0}{sqrt{(9-y^2-z^2)}}dx or do you change it to

\int{0}{3} dx


\int{0}{3} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-z^2)}} \int{0}{ sqrt(9-x^2-y^2)} dz dy dx


regards
 
boneill3 said:
For dx

Do you leave the limit as \int{0}{sqrt{(9-y^2-z^2)}}dx or do you change it to

\int{0}{3} dx


\int{0}{3} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-z^2)}} \int{0}{ sqrt(9-x^2-y^2)} dz dy dx


regards
Since the x integral is the "outer" integral here, its limits of integration must be numbers, not functions of y and z! Yes, the limits are 0 and 3.

My point about the symmetry is that since this is an octant of a sphere, all choices of order are the same: except for "permuting" x, y, and z, those are exactly the limits of integration you had originally.
 
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