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Can we describe what is happening as the skater's angular velocity increases/decreases using F=ma rather than invoking L = constant?
The discussion explores the relationship between a spinning skater's angular velocity and the forces acting on their body, specifically whether this can be described using Newton's second law (F=ma) instead of the conservation of angular momentum (L = constant). The scope includes theoretical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding the dynamics of rotational motion.
Participants express differing views on whether F=ma can fully describe the dynamics of the skater's changing angular velocity, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain in the discussion.
The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the applicability of F=ma versus L = constant, nor does it clarify the conditions under which each might be more appropriate.
Why would you want to?Rosenthal said:using F=ma rather than invoking L = constant?
Yes. We could. For instance, we could consider a force of each hand on the other (mediated through the arms and body). In the starting configuration, this centripetal force is sufficient to accelerate each hand in its circular path around the axis of the skater's body. ##F=ma## is upheld and the hands circle as predicted.Rosenthal said:Can we describe what is happening as the skater's angular velocity increases/decreases using F=ma rather than invoking L = constant?