Changing limits of integration

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The discussion revolves around changing the limits of integration for a double integral involving the function sin(x)/x. The original poster is uncertain about the implications of their professor's comment regarding the integral's inability to be expressed in terms of elementary functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the integral sin(x)/x and its limitations in terms of elementary functions. There is an exploration of changing the order of integration and the implications of doing so. Some participants suggest graphical representation of the limits rather than the function itself.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of how to approach the problem, with some participants offering guidance on changing the order of integration. There is no explicit consensus, but a productive direction is noted as participants engage with the problem's requirements.

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Participants mention constraints related to the inability to express the integral in elementary terms, which is a key aspect of the problem being discussed.

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[SOLVED] Changing limits of integration

Homework Statement



Given:

\int_{y=0}^\pi\int_{x= y}^{\pi}\frac{sinx}{x} dxdy

Change the order of integration and evaluate the double integral.

Homework Equations



My professor told me, "This integral cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions". I'm not exactly sure what that means.

The Attempt at a Solution



sinx/x has always been a very common problem for differentiation and integration, so I'm confident I can solve this with a simple substitution. I'm trying to figure out, however, what they mean by not being able to be expressed in terms of "elementary functions".
 
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The integral of sin(x)/x can't be done by any solution. It can't be expressed as a sum or product or quotient of any of the functions you see in calculus. Changing the limits to integrate with y first will allow you to actually do the integral.
 
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The integral of sin(x)/x can't be done by any solution. It can't be expressed as a sum or product or quotient of any of the functions you see in calculus. Changing the limits to integrate with y first will allow you to actually do the integral.

So I assume representing sinx/x graphically, and then choosing the correct y limits is all their is to this problem? I'm at work, just trying to get a head start on this problem.
 
f(x,y) = sin(x)/x is a 2d- surface. Graph the limits, not the function. Then reverse the order so that y is a function of the x in the first integral.
 
Ok, I see it, will mark as solved. Thanks for the help.
 

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