Changing resistance on soldering iron

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modifying a battery-powered soldering iron to reduce its operating temperature. Participants explore the internal components of the soldering iron, particularly focusing on the resistor and its effect on heating, as well as the implications of changing the power supply configuration.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes opening the soldering iron and finding a resistor and a contact switch, questioning whether this is correct and how to lower the temperature from approximately 500°C to around 200°C.
  • Another participant challenges the claim about the resistor, suggesting that a 51 ohm resistor in series would not provide sufficient power for heating, indicating that a heating element made of nichrome wire is likely present.
  • A participant questions how the high temperature is being measured and asks about the soldering applications to better understand the context of the problem.
  • There is speculation about the purpose of the 51 ohm resistor, with one participant suggesting it may be for an LED indicator rather than affecting the heating element.
  • Discussion includes the possibility of reducing the number of batteries or using a resistor to decrease power, with concerns raised about the effectiveness of these methods.
  • Another participant notes that if the 51 ohm resistor is indeed for the LED, it does not impact the heating element, which would require a much lower resistance to operate effectively.
  • Suggestions are made about creating a dummy cell to reduce voltage while maintaining the option to revert to full power later.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of the 51 ohm resistor and the best approach to reduce the soldering iron's temperature. There is no consensus on the most effective method to achieve the desired temperature reduction, and multiple competing ideas remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of the soldering iron's internal components and the calculations needed to determine the appropriate resistance for temperature control. There is uncertainty regarding the specifications of the heating element and the implications of modifying the power supply.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electronics, DIY projects, or those looking to understand the principles of electrical resistance and heating elements may find this discussion relevant.

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So being curious, I opened up my cheapo radioshack battery powered soldering iron and to my surprise there was basically just a resistor and a contact switch which connected to the batteries and the soldering tip. Does this seem correct or am I mistaken.

My purpose for opening it is because the temp. on the iron is way too high and I am trying to lower it to an appropriate range (~200 C) I think right now it is around 500 C. Could I just increase the resistance in order to decrease the power that is going to the soldering tip? If so how would I go about calculating the amount of resistance necessary to get the required temp?

I am a little rusty on the physics of electricity but trying to get back into, so any help in the right direction would be much appreciated. Feel free to reference relevant equations, as I said I need to restudy some of these things.

I'm not sure if this is right but the resistor appears to be 51 ohm, and there are four AA batteries which means 6V.
 
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That can't be right.

If there was a 51 ohm resistor in there in series with the heating element, the total power would be less than 0.7 watts. Not enough to get the sort of heating you are describing.

Somewhere near the tip, there will be a heating element which will be made of nichrome wire or similar. It will get very hot when power is applied.

You may be able to reduce the voltage to this element so that it doesn't get so hot, but you need to know what is already in there.
 
heidesw said:
So being curious, I opened up my cheapo radioshack battery powered soldering iron and to my surprise there was basically just a resistor and a contact switch which connected to the batteries and the soldering tip. Does this seem correct or am I mistaken.

My purpose for opening it is because the temp. on the iron is way too high and I am trying to lower it to an appropriate range (~200 C) I think right now it is around 500 C. Could I just increase the resistance in order to decrease the power that is going to the soldering tip? If so how would I go about calculating the amount of resistance necessary to get the required temp?

I am a little rusty on the physics of electricity but trying to get back into, so any help in the right direction would be much appreciated. Feel free to reference relevant equations, as I said I need to restudy some of these things.

I'm not sure if this is right but the resistor appears to be 51 ohm, and there are four AA batteries which means 6V.

How are you measuring the 500C? What adverse affects are you seeing in your solder joints? How much did the RS soldering iron cost? What kinds of things are you soldering? Wires? Through-hole components? SMT components? Other?
 
Just a guess, but does this contraption have a little light to show when it is on?

51 ohms might be about right to tap off a few milliamps for an LED.
 
@Adjuster: Yeah, you're right it does have an LED, that part makes sense now, it's just drawing off the small bit of power to turn the led on when the iron is heating up. Great thanks for the clarification on that.

I work with a low melting point solder (tin, silver, coppper) and would like to use my wireless iron sometimes, that is why I am trying to lower the temperature on this iron.

@berkeman: The temperature is based off the specifications given by the manufacturer and from my own testing. I didn't spend much on the iron, but I just wanted to see if this wouldn't be a good project to ease my way back into studying physics, since the iron uses such a simple circuit. But my problem is that I can't think of how I would use the equations to figure out how to incorporate the temperature. Could I possibly reduce the number of batteries (there are currently four AA), or would it be easier to use a resistor to decrease the power? Wouldn't a resistor decrease the power too much since a 51 ohm resistor limits the power to .70W?

Please let me know if I am off track, thanks for the help...and the patience.
 
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Haven't you just agreed that the 51 ohms is for a pilot light? If that is so, this resistor limits the power used by the light to less than 0.7W, but it does not affect the heating element. The element needs to pass a few amps at 6 Volts in order to give a reasonable heating power. You don't say what the iron is rated at, but at 6V an element of two ohms resistance would pass 3 Amps, giving 18W.

You could consider putting a suitably low resistance in series with the element, but note that resistor would consume a fair few watts and so would generate quite a bit of heat. Your idea of missing a battery out may be a better option, provided that the iron really does use 1.5V disposable cells, so that there is no question of a charger which might be upset by the lower voltage.

If you do want to lower the battery voltage with minimal alteration to the iron, consider making up a dummy cell with the two ends connected together. That way you can always go back to full power later by fitting all four cells.
 
Incidentally, if this thing really works off a four ordinary 1.5V AA cells, how long can it work for? Are you sure the batteries aren't some kind of rechargeable type?
 

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