Charge entering element, current as a func of time

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the current as a function of time from a given charge function, q(t) = 7.5C · (1 − e(+t/τ)), and includes questions about the unit of τ and the verification of units for current. The scope includes homework-related problem-solving and mathematical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that to find the current as a function of time, one needs to take the derivative of the charge function, indicating that current is the rate of flow of charge.
  • There is a discussion about the unit of τ, with some participants proposing that it should be seconds based on the charge function's output.
  • One participant questions whether multiplying the charge function by 1/t would yield the correct units for current, while another clarifies that this approach would not provide the correct answer for instantaneous current.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of understanding the concept of a rate and the application of calculus in this context.
  • There is a mention of the relationship between coulombs and amps, with one participant asserting that the derivative would yield the instantaneous current at a given time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the current can be found by taking the derivative of the charge function, but there is some uncertainty regarding the correct approach and the implications of the units involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific calculations and interpretations of the results.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the mathematical steps needed to derive the current from the charge function, as well as the implications of unit conversions and definitions. Some assumptions about the understanding of calculus and current may not be explicitly stated.

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Homework Statement


Over time (0s ≤ t < ∞), charge enters an element according to q(t) = 7.5C · (1 − e(+t/τ)).

1. What is the current into the element as a function of time? (Find a symbolic answer!)
2. What is the unit of τ?
3. Prove that the unit of the result indeed is A.



The Attempt at a Solution



Do I need to take the integral of this to get current as a function of time? I don't suppose I cane just separate the coulomb int A*s and get the A by itself or is that not right?

And I don't know where else to go on this problem...
 
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SteelDirigibl said:
Do I need to take the integral of this to get current as a function of time?

I suggest you look up the definition of electric current. You should know it already, though.
 
yep... what am I missing?
 
Perhaps you are missing the concept of a rate (using calculus).
 
q(t) = 7.5C · (1 − e(+t/τ)).

In this equation, the final output is in C, is it not? then would the units of tau be seconds also, so then to have this find current, can I multiply the whole thing by 1/t leaving me with amps as the resultant unit?
 
SteelDirigibl said:
so then to have this find current, can I multiply the whole thing by 1/t leaving me with amps as the resultant unit?
You're supposed to find the instantaneous current. Yes, if you divided by time, your answer would have the correct units. But that answer itself wouldn't be correct.
 
so do I need to take the derivative?

-7.5C/τ*e(t/τ)

or

-7.5A*e(t/τ)
 
What do you think and why? This is a very basic question. I don't think it's something with which you should struggle this much, if you are studying physics or engineering at the college level.
 
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i think that's right, because coulombs is the current coming in over an amount of time. (amps times however many seconds) so derivative would give instantaneous current at a given time.
 
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current is rate of flow of charge.
So you need to take a derivative of the given expression.
exponentials are dimensionless t = unit of time so T = time too :)
as you take derivative you intitutively divide by DELTA t and take limit 0 so you have unit C/t = A
 
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