Checking Ring Isomorphism: Z_9 and Z_3 + Z_3

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the rings Z_9 and the direct sum of Z_3 and Z_3 are isomorphic. Participants explore concepts related to ring theory and the properties of abelian groups.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss checking if the rings are 1-1 and onto, the relevance of the fundamental theorem of finitely generated abelian groups, and the necessity of defining a mapping for justification. Questions about the characteristics of the rings and their implications for isomorphism are also raised.

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Participants are actively exploring the characteristics of the rings and their implications for isomorphism. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definition of characteristics and their significance in the context of ring isomorphism.

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There is a focus on the characteristics of the rings, with participants questioning the definitions and the implications of these characteristics in determining isomorphism. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on the definitions used in the context of rings and abelian groups.

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I was asked to decide if Z_9 and the direct sum of Z_3 and Z_3 are isomorphic.

Do I check to see if they are 1-1 and onto?
 
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Do you know the fundamental theorem of finitely generated abelian groups? This seems like a pretty big theorem but some abstract algebra texts make use of it early on without proof.
 
Well, this problem is in the section on rings, so would I use that?
 
The rings have an underlying abelian group. Thus if the rings are isomorphic, so are the groups...
 
I guess I have an easier time showing something is isomorphic when I have defined a mapping.
Let h:Z_9--->Z_3+Z_3 be defined by h(9n)=(3m,3n)*(3a,3b)
I guess if I have some kind of mapping I can justify my answer better.
 
I would suggest looking at the characteristic of each ring (i.e., the order of 1 in the underlying additive group)

If rings (or groups) are isomorphic, what must be true about their characteristics (or orders of elements)?
 
Their characteristics would be the same?
 
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Their characteristics would be the same?

Yes, so what are the characteristics of your two rings? Are they the same?
 
Well a characteristic is the smallest positive integer n such that n*1=0
So for Z_9, we have 0*1=0, so 0 is the characteristic?
For the direct sum, we have (0,0)(1,1)=(0,0), so (0,0) is the characteristic?
 
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Well a characteristic is the smallest positive integer n such that n*1=0

This is correct, but 0 nor 0,0 are positive integers. Remember that n*1 means 1+1+...+1 n-times. Basically, you can think of n*1 as 1^n in the underlying additive group. The characteristic of a ring can also be thought of as the order of 1 (the multiplicative identity element) in the underlying additive group (except if no positive integer n exists we say the characteristic is 0 where as we say the order is infinity).

So knowing this, what is the characteristic of your rings? Are they equal?
 

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