Chemistry, colligative properties-freezing point

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the freezing point of a solution made by dissolving potassium chromate in water, focusing on the application of colligative properties, specifically the freezing point depression and the Van't Hoff factor. Participants explore the implications of ionic dissociation in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for the freezing point depression based on the molality of the solution and the molal freezing point-depression constant.
  • Another participant challenges the assertion that ionic compounds rarely dissociate completely, stating that simple ionic salts almost always dissociate 100%.
  • A participant questions the Van't Hoff factor for potassium chromate, suggesting that if it dissociates completely, the factor would be 1.
  • Another participant advises writing the dissociation equation to determine the correct Van't Hoff factor, implying that it is not simply 1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the dissociation behavior of ionic compounds, particularly potassium chromate, and how it affects the calculation of the Van't Hoff factor. The discussion remains unresolved on the correct application of the Van't Hoff factor in this scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the Van't Hoff factor for potassium chromate, and there are unresolved assumptions about the extent of dissociation in the context of colligative properties.

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Homework Statement

A solution is made by dissolving 250.0 g of solid potassium chromate in 1.00 kg of water. What will be the freezing point of the new solution?

molal freezing point-depression constant of water = 1.86 degrees Celsius/molality
molality = mol/kg

Relevant equations

[Delta]T(freezing point)=(Van't Hoff Factor)(molal concentration of solute particles)(molal freezing point-depression constant)

Van't Hoff Factor = (moles of particles in solution/moles of solute dissolved)The attempt at a solution

(250 g K2CrO4)(1 mol K2CrO4/194.188 K2CrO4) = 1.29 mol of K2CrO4
(1.29 mol K2CrO4/1.00 kg H2O) = 1.29 mol/kg
Change in freezing point = (1.29 molality)(1.86 degrees Celsius/molality)
Change in freezing point = 0 degrees celsius - 2.40 degrees celsius
Change in freezing point = -2.40 degrees celsiusComments

Answer is -7.18 degrees celsius
Since ionic compounds rarely dissociate completely the Van't Hoff Factor has to be used. Except I don't know how to use it...
 
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Flip said:
Since ionic compounds rarely dissociate completely

This is false statement. Simple ionic salts almost always dissociate 100%.

the Van't Hoff Factor has to be used. Except I don't know how to use it...

What is van't Hoff factor for this salt (assuming 100% dissociation)?
 
The Van't Hoff Factor isn't given, which is why I thought that I had to find it myself. But if it does dissociate completely then doesn't that mean that the Van't Hoff Factor would just be 1?
 
No. Write equation of dissociation reaction and use the definition you have already posted.
 

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