Cheng's or Lorrain/Corson's Electromagnetics book?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate textbook for a second course in electromagnetism. Participants compare Cheng's "Field and Wave Electromagnetics" and Lorrain and Corson's "Electromagnetic Fields and Waves," while also considering other suggestions for books that are slightly more advanced than Griffith's "Introduction to Electrodynamics." The focus is on finding a text that deepens understanding without reaching graduate-level complexity.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that both Cheng's and Lorrain/Corson's books are at a similar level to Griffith's, with no significant increase in difficulty.
  • One participant notes that Cheng's book emphasizes topics like transmission lines and waveguides, which may be beneficial for applications like microwave engineering.
  • Another participant proposes Marion and Heald's book as a potential option that sits between Griffith's and graduate-level texts.
  • There is a suggestion to consider the Feynman Lectures as a valuable resource, although its level of advancement compared to Griffith's is questioned.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the term "modern" in relation to Zangwill's "Modern Electrodynamics," suggesting that modern treatment should incorporate relativistic concepts from the outset.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Cheng's and Lorrain/Corson's books do not significantly exceed Griffith's level. However, there are differing opinions on the suitability of other suggested texts, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding which book is definitively better for the intended purpose.

Contextual Notes

Some participants emphasize the importance of checking library availability and personal preferences before purchasing any book. There is also mention of the varying emphases and problem sets in the suggested texts, which may influence their suitability for different learners.

Which of these books is better?

  • David Cheng's "Field and Wave Electromagnetics"

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  • P.Lorrain and Corson's "Electromagnetic Fields and Waves"

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Hello, I want a book on electromagnetics for my second course on electromagnetism. In my first course we used Griffith's "Introduction to Electrodynamics" with supplements like Morin and Purcell's "Electricity and Magnetism". I borrowed those from the university's library but now I want to step up my level and go for something just a bit more advanced(not graduate level though). After some research, I have narrowed it down to the two following choices:
Cheng's "Field and Wave Electromagnetics"
Lorrain and Corson's "Electromagnetic Fields and Waves"
So, which one do you think is the better of the two?
Also, if you have any other suggestion, please feel free to express it(except Griffith's and Morin/Purcell's books)!
Thank you in advance!
 
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Landau&Lifshitz Vol. II
Schwinger, Classical Electrodynamics
Jackson, Classical Electrodynamics
 
vanhees71 said:
Landau&Lifshitz Vol. II
Schwinger, Classical Electrodynamics
Jackson, Classical Electrodynamics
Ain't Jackson's and Landau's books at graduate level?
 
Well, but if you've been through Griffiths and you want to go beyond that level, they seem to be good. Of course, you should first check at the library, whether you like them or find them useful before you buy them.
 
vanhees71 said:
Well, but if you've been through Griffiths and you want to go beyond that level, they seem to be good. Of course, you should first check at the library, whether you like them or find them useful before you buy them.
You got me wrong. The professor teaches at a level similar to that of Griffith's. But I want to study the same material at just a bit more advance level. Just a bit. Not all the way up to graduate level! I am thinking about a book that goes just a bit more deep than Griffiths as far as mathematics go and also that also treats some more subtle subjects that might not be found at a book like Griffith's. Maybe the way I had put it give the wrong impression
 
Then perhaps have a look at the Feynman Lectures vol. II.
 
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Is it more advanced than Griffiths?
 
I'd say, it's one of the best books ever written about physics.
 
The two books you mention are at the same level as Griffiths. I am most familiar with Cheng's book. It has a different emphasis than Griffiths - spending a few chapters on transmission lines, impedance matching, waveguides and basic antennas, but is no more advanced. Cheng's book will help prepare for learning about microwave engineering and such, but will be any additional help for more advanced material. I'm only a little familiar with Lorrain and Corson - again it is similar to Griffiths with a slightly different coverage (and more interesting problems!).

One book that is in-between Griffiths and graduate level may be Marion and Heald
http://store.doverpublications.com/0486490602.html
Note that the solutions manual is also available from that page, so it may be nice for self-study. See if your library has it to see if it is what you are looking for.

jason
 
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vanhees71 said:
I'd say, it's one of the best books ever written about physics.
I will certainly check it out! thank you!
jasonRF said:
The two books you mention are at the same level as Griffiths. I am most familiar with Cheng's book. It has a different emphasis than Griffiths - spending a few chapters on transmission lines, impedance matching, waveguides and basic antennas, but is no more advanced. Cheng's book will help prepare for learning about microwave engineering and such, but will be any additional help for more advanced material. I'm only a little familiar with Lorrain and Corson - again it is similar to Griffiths with a slightly different coverage (and more interesting problems!).

One book that is in-between Griffiths and graduate level may be Marion and Heald
http://store.doverpublications.com/0486490602.html
Note that the solutions manual is also available from that page, so it may be nice for self-study. See if your library has it to see if it is what you are looking for.

jason
Marion/Heald's book seems very good!By the way, does any of you know Zangwill's Modern Electrodynamics?
 
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I've looked through it. It seems to be a good book, but I don't understand what's "modern" about it. A really "modern" book is more like Landau/Lifshitz, Scheck, or Schwartz, where E&M is treated as a relativistic theory, which it is right from the beginning 150 years ago but which was only realized by Poincare, Lorentz, and finally Einstein around 110 years ago.
 

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