Child dragging box (friction, net force and work)

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A child drags a 20kg box across a lawn and a sidewalk, with different coefficients of friction for each surface. The net forces for both segments are calculated, yielding pulling forces of 49.05N on the lawn and 107.91N on the sidewalk. It is clarified that the work done must be calculated separately for each segment using the formula W = Fnet,xΔx, rather than combining the forces. The discussion emphasizes the importance of evaluating each part of the journey independently to find the total work done. The assumption of constant velocity is acknowledged as critical for solving the problem correctly.
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Homework Statement



A child drags a 20kg box across a lawn for 10m anfd along a sidewalk for 30m; the coefficient of friction is 0.25 for the first part of the trip and 0.55 for the second part. If the child always pulls horizontally, how much work does the child do on the box?



Homework Equations



W = Fnet,x\Deltax



The Attempt at a Solution



The only way that I know how to find a net force is to find the summation of F for part one and the summation of F for part 2. While the problem dioesn't say so, I am going to assume there is constant velocity.

\SigmaFx1=0

Wx1=0
Px1= ?
Ff1= -\muk1mg

Px1 - \muk1mg = 0

\SigmaFy1=0

Wy1= -mg
N1= mg

mg - mg = 0

\SigmaFx2=0

Wx2=0
Px2= ?
Ff2= -\muk2mg

Px2 - \muk2mg = 0

\SigmaFy2=0

Wy2= -mg
N2= mg

mg-mg=0

So here is where I get lost. I can find Px1 (49.05N) and Px2 (107.91N). Do I just add them together and plug them into the F portion of the W = Fnet,x\Deltax formula, using 40m as my ]\Deltax?
 
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I think you are making things unnecessarily complicated here...the working definitely can be simplified somewhat.
In any case, you are right in obtaining the (pulling) force along the lawn as 49.05N and that along the sidewalk as 107.91N. However, you cannot add them together and plug them into the equation for work! That does not make any sense. Rather, you have to evaluate the work done on the box for each part (lawn and sidewalk) separately, and add the work together to obtain the total work done by the child on the box.
 
Fightfish said:
I think you are making things unnecessarily complicated here...the working definitely can be simplified somewhat.
In any case, you are right in obtaining the (pulling) force along the lawn as 49.05N and that along the sidewalk as 107.91N. However, you cannot add them together and plug them into the equation for work! That does not make any sense. Rather, you have to evaluate the work done on the box for each part (lawn and sidewalk) separately, and add the work together to obtain the total work done by the child on the box.


I sometimes have problems with my summation of forces and find that if I separate the x and y forces and label everything it helps me. I agree that it is tedious, but I tend to not "see" things and leave them out if I do not. I am hoping that as I continue on and get more comfortable with the process I will no longer need to do it.

Once again, thank you for your help. I thought that the formula W = Fnet,x\Deltax meant that I was to add all of the forces and apply them to the formula.

Instead I see now that I will have a W1 = F1,x \Deltax1 and a W2 = F2,x \Deltax2 and that Wt = W1 + W2
 
Jim01 said:
While the problem doesn't say so, I am going to assume there is constant velocity.
Good observation. You really couldn't solve the problem without more info if the box was accelerating, but nonetheless, your assumption shows keen insight. The problem should state such.
 
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