Pivoting Rod and Ball - Rotational Dynamics

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a cylindrical rod with an attached ball, pivoting about one end after falling through 90 degrees. It is situated in the context of rotational dynamics, specifically focusing on the calculation of rotational kinetic energy and moment of inertia.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the moment of inertia for both the rod and the ball, with attempts to combine these values. Questions arise regarding how to determine the angular velocity (ω) necessary for calculating kinetic energy, and the impact of gravity on the system's motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided equations for moment of inertia and potential energy, while others express uncertainty about finding ω and its relation to gravitational effects during the rotation. The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of rotational dynamics, including the effects of gravity and the setup of the problem. There is a noted lack of consensus on how to proceed with finding ω and the implications of potential energy in the system.

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Homework Statement


A cylindrical rod 26.0 cm long with a mass of 1.20 kg and a radius of 1.50 cm has a ball of diameter of 7.80 cm and a mass of 2.00 kg attached to one end. The arrangement is originally vertical and stationary, with the ball at the top. The apparatus is free to pivot about the bottom end of the rod.

(a) After it falls through 90°, what is its rotational kinetic energy?

Homework Equations


KE=1/2Iomega^2
I=(2mr^2)/5
I=(2mL^2)/3

The Attempt at a Solution



Moment of inertia=I of rod + I of ball?
I=(2*m*(r+L)^2)/5)+(2mL^2)/3
I'm lost as to finding \omega so I can find KE.

Please point me in the right direction.
Thank you
 
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Moment of Inertia of a rod about pivot is

I_r=\frac{mL^2}{3}

And if you take level of pivet as zero level,after rod falls through 90°,total potential energy will be zero

so we have

PE_{initial}=\frac{1}{2}I_{total}\omega^2
 
I=(2*m*(r+L)^2)/5)+(mL^2)/3
I=.0985

so

KE=1/2(.0985)\omega^2

I need to find omega so I can find kinetic E. Correct?

How does one find omega? Obviously gravity affects the speed but gravity isn't the same over the entire rotation so how does that work out?
 
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What's the potential energy of this system,when it's at rest?
 

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