Clarify remark from Landau's Mechanics

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The discussion centers on the polynomial expansion of the potential U(q) around a stable equilibrium point q0, as described by Landau. Participants clarify that such an expansion is valid for any potential that is twice differentiable at q0, with the first derivative being zero at equilibrium. The kinetic energy expression is examined, revealing that the coefficient of \dot{q}^2 must be a function of q, rather than a constant, due to the relationship between generalized coordinates and Cartesian coordinates. The conversation emphasizes the importance of Taylor expansion in understanding the behavior of potentials near equilibrium. Overall, the discussion enhances comprehension of the mathematical framework underlying small oscillations in mechanics.
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While discussing the small oscillations of particles about a stable equilibrium, Landau writes

...The potential U(q) for small deviations can be expressed as a polynomial
U(q) - U(q_{0}) = \frac{1}{2}k(q - q_{0})^{2}

...The kinetic energy of a free particle in one dimension is generally of the form
\frac{1}{2}a(q)\dot{q}^{2}

...

Where q is the generalized co-ordinate.

Section 21, Volume 1

1. How do you know such a polynomial expansion for q is allowed? How do you know it exists? After all, this is any old U with its first derivative 0 at q0.
2. Why does the co-efficient of \dot{q}^{2} have to be a function of q? I thought it'd be a constant.
 
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anirudh215 said:
2. Why does the co-efficient of \dot{q}^{2} have to be a function of q? I thought it'd be a constant.
A generalized coordinate q will be some function of the ordinary cartesian coordinate x. For concreteness, let's say q = x³, or x = q1/3.

The kinetic energy is then

T = \frac{1}{2} m \dot{x}^2 = \frac{m}{18q^{4/3}} \dot{q}^2 = \frac{1}{2} a(q) \dot{q}^2

with a(q) = m/9q4/3
 
anirudh215 said:
1. How do you know such a polynomial expansion for q is allowed? How do you know it exists? After all, this is any old U with its first derivative 0 at q0.

Expand U(q) as a taylor expansion around q0. The first order term will be zero since q0 is an equilibrium point.
 
Oh! I didn't think of that. Thanks. What about question 1?
 
U(q) = U(q_0) + \frac{dU}{dq}_{q_0} (q - q_0) + \frac{d^2U}{dq^2}_{q_0} \frac{(q - q_0)^2}{2} + ...

U(q) - U(q_0) = \frac{d^2U}{dq^2}_{q_0} \frac{(q - q_0)^2}{2} + ...
 
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dx said:
U(q) = U(q_0) + \frac{dU}{dq}_{q_0} (q - q_0) + \frac{d^2U}{dq^2}_{q_0} \frac{(q - q_0)^2}{2} + ...

U(q) - U(q_0) = \frac{d^2U}{dq^2}_{q_0} \frac{(q - q_0)^2}{2} + ...

I know how to Taylor expand that function. My question was how do you know such a thing exists for any potential.
 
You can just think of this formula as something that applies for any potential which is twice differentiable at q0. Most physically meaningful potentials will of course be infinitely differentiable.
 
Okay! Thank you!
 
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