Classical Thermodynamics for Statistical Mechanics

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The discussion focuses on the essential thermodynamics topics necessary for studying statistical mechanics. Key concepts include intensive and extensive properties, state and path functions, thermal equilibrium, the second law of thermodynamics, entropy, equilibrium, steady state, thermal interactions, reversible processes, and Maxwell relations. The participant also inquires about the suitability of the book "Heat and Thermodynamics" by Zemansky for their studies. While the book's effectiveness is debated, the consensus emphasizes the importance of understanding foundational thermodynamics concepts to avoid confusion in statistical mechanics.

PREREQUISITES
  • Intensive and extensive properties
  • State and path functions
  • Thermal equilibrium
  • Second law of thermodynamics and entropy
NEXT STEPS
  • Study Maxwell relations in thermodynamics
  • Explore the concept of reversible processes
  • Learn about thermal interactions and their implications
  • Investigate the relationship between thermodynamics and statistical mechanics
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This discussion is beneficial for students of thermodynamics, particularly those planning to transition to statistical mechanics, as well as educators seeking to clarify the foundational concepts necessary for advanced studies in physics.

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Hi all,
It's my first time to ask a question here

I am now taking a Thermodynamics course and I have the authority to choose what topics to study in this course.
My intention is to be able to study statistical mechanics afterward. So I need thermodynamics that will be useful when studying statistical mechanics.

So I'd like to ask: what thermodynamics topics I will need if I will study statistical mechanics.

another question is: I am studynig from a rather old book "Heat and Thermodynamics by zemansky". Is this a good book?

Thanks
 
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msaleh87 said:
So I'd like to ask: what thermodynamics topics I will need if I will study statistical mechanics.

Thanks

You will need to understand the basic terminology in thermodynamics. Such as, intensive and extensive properties, state and path functions, thermal equilibrium, etc. Also the second law and Entropy are very central.

You don't have to bother much about the practical part, like gas and steam power cycles, refrigeration, and air conditioning.
 
msaleh87 said:
I am now taking a Thermodynamics course and I have the authority to choose what topics to study in this course.
My intention is to be able to study statistical mechanics afterward. So I need thermodynamics that will be useful when studying statistical mechanics.

So I'd like to ask: what thermodynamics topics I will need if I will study statistical mechanics.

another question is: I am studynig from a rather old book "Heat and Thermodynamics by zemansky". Is this a good book?

Thanks

I haven't used Zemansky, so I can't comment on that; but I will caution you that statistical mechanics can be studied quite independently of thermodynamics and furthermore, carelessly relating the basic results of thermostatics and statistical mechanics can often lead to many conceptual difficulties for students when considering thermodynamics later.

That said, in answer to your question you will need to have a clear understanding of: equilibrium, steady state, thermal interactions, reversible process, and the Maxwell relations.
 
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