Classical two-body problem-understanding

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The classical two-body problem involves analyzing the motion of two interacting particles by superposing the origin of coordinates on one particle, resulting in the other particle exhibiting reduced mass dynamics. The equation of motion is expressed as [mM/(m+M)]*a=F, where 'a' is acceleration and 'F' is force. The discussion highlights the challenge of determining whether this setup constitutes an inertial frame, especially when considering interactions like radial acceleration in binary star systems. Atam P Arya emphasizes that the introduction of centrifugal energy, defined as L^2/(2*mu*r^2), indicates a transition to a rotating frame, complicating the analysis of inertial versus non-inertial frames.

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  • Understanding of classical mechanics principles, specifically Newton's laws of motion.
  • Familiarity with the concept of reduced mass in two-body problems.
  • Knowledge of inertial and non-inertial reference frames.
  • Basic grasp of angular momentum and centrifugal force concepts.
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  • Study the derivation and applications of centrifugal energy in rotating frames.
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  • Investigate the differences between inertial and non-inertial frames in various physical contexts.
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In a classical two body problem,when we superpose our origin of co-ordinates on anyone of the two particles,the other particle(now we see it to have reduced mass [mM/(m+M)],moves w.r.t. me...

I saw in a book #Central Force Motion, that the particle is treated by 2nd law of motion...
i.e. [mM/(m+M)]*a=F where a and F are accelen. and force term.

My question is how do we know that this is indeed an inertial frame?After all the two particles are interacting among themselves and there may well be a radial accelen.(Like in the case of Binary stars).

Another point is that we invoke the concept of centrifugal energy...
(=L^2/(2*mu*r^2)) where mu denotes the reduced mass.

Atam P Arya says that here we are working from a rotating frame as a penalty of eliminating theta from the equations...i.e. we are being bound to put this centrifugal force term(and hence a centrifugal energy) as we are working from a rotating frame...

I am having the fragrance...But cannot see the reality...
Please highlight on this topic.
 
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If the entire universe is just these two bodies, and there are no external forces whatsoever, then there are no external forces. If you transform into a reference frame with the center of mass then with no external forces it is by definition an inertial reference frame.

However, this trick doesn't work if you're truly working with a many-body problem -- for example, if you wanted to calculate the effect of Jupiter's gravity on the Earth's orbit then transforming to center of mass only reduces your system by one degree of freedom but you're still left with too many degrees of freedom.
 
So what?
I want to know why do not we cansider that we are working from a non-inaetial frame while describing the 2 body problem interms of centre of mass.
 

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