Cold water tastes better than warm

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the preference for cold water over warm water, exploring sensory perceptions, historical practices, and potential evolutionary adaptations. Participants share personal experiences and hypotheses regarding taste differences and cultural significance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a preference for cold water, noting that warm water tastes unpleasant to them.
  • One participant suggests that cold temperatures may numb taste buds, which could explain why cold foods like ice cream are perceived as more enjoyable when slightly warmed.
  • Another participant references biblical mentions of cold water, proposing that a preference for cold may be an adaptation to avoid contaminated water, as cold sources might have fewer pathogens.
  • Historical references are made regarding the popularity of ice and iced water among ancient civilizations, suggesting that it served as a remedy for hot weather.
  • Some participants discuss the logistics of ice transportation in ancient times, with one questioning the feasibility of shipping ice to regions like Egypt.
  • Another participant provides details on the ice trade in the 19th century, explaining how ice was insulated with sawdust for transport, linking it to economic activities like rum production.
  • There is a suggestion that the preference for cold water may stem from more primal instincts rather than royal traditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the reasons behind the preference for cold water, with multiple competing views and hypotheses presented throughout the discussion.

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Some claims rely on historical interpretations and anecdotal evidence, and there is uncertainty regarding the accuracy of historical accounts and the assumptions underlying the proposed adaptations.

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To me cold water tastes nice, but leave it for a few minutes to warm (slightly) and it tastes horrible, is this just my taste, or do you find the same, if yes why does it taste different?
 
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I suspect that the cold simply numbs your taste buds a bit. That would also explain why something like icecream tastes better if you let it thaw a bit.
 


i don't know how universal it is, but it is at least mentioned in the bible, way before refrigeration. may be an adaptation against drinking contaminated water. you'd expect cold sources of water to have fewer pathogens, right?
 


Proton Soup said:
i don't know how universal it is, but it is at least mentioned in the bible, way before refrigeration.
Ice and iced water have been popular with rulers and other rich folk from way back (~ 3000BC) in Mesopotamia, through the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese/Mongols, Mughals and most of medieval Europe (and in all cases, the ice had to be shipped over from the nearest mountains).

In most of these cases (particularly in Egypt, the Middle East and India), it was likely just the natural antidote to really hot weather.
 


Gokul43201 said:
Ice and iced water have been popular with rulers and other rich folk from way back (~ 3000BC) in Mesopotamia, through the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese/Mongols, Mughals and most of medieval Europe (and in all cases, the ice had to be shipped over from the nearest mountains).

In most of these cases (particularly in Egypt, the Middle East and India), it was likely just the natural antidote to really hot weather.

wasn't aware of that. stories of say the french making ice cream type desserts with ice shipped in from the alps isn't too surprising, but getting it to egypt seems extravagant unless I'm less familiar with the geography than i think i am.
 


Proton Soup said:
wasn't aware of that. stories of say the french making ice cream type desserts with ice shipped in from the alps isn't too surprising, but getting it to egypt seems extravagant unless I'm less familiar with the geography than i think i am.
Extravagant? What would you call making a hundred thousand slaves haul millions of tons of rock for over a dozen years, to build a giant box with a tolerance of better than 0.1% on all dimensions, to chuck your carcass into?
 


slaves

Not by what they said on National Geographic.
 


It's not hard to ship ice. Maine used to be the lumber capitol of the new world and its ice capitol. Those distinctions were related because a major use for sawdust from the sawmills was to insulate blocks of ice so that they could be shipped with minimal losses. Ice was cut from ponds and lakes in the winter, layered with sawdust and stored in ice-houses for warm-weather shipment to New York, Boston, etc, and indeed lots of it found its way onto ships headed for the Caribbean to supply refrigeration and cool drinks for plantation-owners. The ships came back with molasses, often, which was turned into rum in Boston and other ports.
 
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Blenton said:
Not by what they said on National Geographic.
Right, I guess I was being a little too fast and loose with that description (no doubt the other numbers in it are also only roughly correct). I think I saw that one too (or something similar on the History channel), but it's been a while. I can't recall what it did say about the laborers, other than that there was a more complicated social structure than just the common image of the slave-master relationship.
 
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well, royal extravagance aside, i still suspect there's something more primal to our preference of cold water. we're not all descended from kings.
 

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