Combinations of n objects taken r at a time

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The discussion focuses on calculating the number of combinations for a modular storage file with specific choices for the base, top, and storage modules. Customers can select from 2 base options, 4 top options, and must choose 4 modules from 5 available varieties, where the order of selection does not matter. The initial approach to the problem was flawed, leading to a fractional result, which is incorrect in combinatorial contexts. Clarification on the correct method emphasizes the importance of understanding combinations versus permutations. The conversation highlights the need for a clear application of combinatorial formulas to arrive at the correct total number of choices.
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An office furniture manufacturer that makes modular storage files offer its customers two choices for the base and four choices for the top, and the modular storage files come in five different heights. The customer may choose any combination of the five different-sized modules so that the finished file has a base, a top, and one, two, three, four, five, or six storage modules. How many choices does the customer have if the completed file has four storage modules, a top, and base? The order in which the four modules are stacked is irrelevant.

The best i could get was nCr=(n/r), (2/1)x(4/1)x((5/4)+(5/3)+(5/2)+(5/1)), and it is wrong. my teacher spent half an hour on this one question and he has no clue how to do it. This is basically my last resort.
 
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It's like the ice-cream flavors problem - only the number of choices for top and bottom flavor are not the same as for the middle ones. You've done that one before right?
It would help to see your reasoning - but it looks like you did something to do with combinations out of 5 (but it looks like you got the formula mixed up) , times the 2 bases, times the 4 tops? The answer cannot be correct because it gives you a fraction in the answer - and you cannot have a fraction of a combination. In fact, the method you tried will usually give you a fraction. (BTW: do you know the correct answer?)

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You have a base (out of 2), a top (out of 4) so that's 8 right there... well done.
The middle part has 4 modules in the middle, which the customer assembles out of 5 varieties.
If the varieties are A,B,C,D,E, then one choice may be AABE, another may be ACCE.
If order matters, then AABE is different from ABAE etc.

Is the way forward clearer now?

Note: it is easy to get mixed up about formulas, so try to look at what the formulas are trying to describe:
http://www.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations.html
 
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I tried to combine those 2 formulas but it didn't work. I tried using another case where there are 2 red balls and 2 blue balls only so when combining the formula I got ##\frac{(4-1)!}{2!2!}=\frac{3}{2}## which does not make sense. Is there any formula to calculate cyclic permutation of identical objects or I have to do it by listing all the possibilities? Thanks
Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
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