Combining thermal conductivity

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The discussion revolves around the methods for combining thermal conductivity of different materials, particularly in the context of layered structures and mixtures. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of thermal resistance and conductivity in various applications, including construction materials and insulation.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question how thermal conductivity can be combined if thermal resistance is additive, citing examples like walls filled with different materials.
  • One participant references a source suggesting that thermal conductivities can be combined using weighted averages based on volume ratios, but notes this may depend on specific blending criteria.
  • Another participant provides a formula for calculating total thermal conductivity for laminated materials, emphasizing the importance of using consistent units and scaling values according to thickness.
  • An example is given to illustrate the calculation of total thermal conductivity for a combination of concrete and polyurethane, with a note that experts may consider additional factors like surface emissivity for more accurate results.
  • It is mentioned that the approach for laminations differs from materials in parallel, such as walls with windows, which require area weighting for calculations.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about calculating the conductivity of complex mixtures, suggesting that empirical measurement might be necessary for certain materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on how to combine thermal conductivities, with no consensus reached on a single method applicable to all scenarios. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for complex mixtures.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential dependencies on specific definitions of thermal resistance and conductivity, as well as the need for careful consideration of material properties and configurations in calculations.

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If thermal resistance is additive, then how can the thermal conductivity of two (or more) materials be combined? Can it? Eg. a wall filled with straw and air, a hollow brick, a mixture of polystyrene and fibreglass wool (just some random ideas off the top of my head).
 
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It's quite easy for laminations such as walls because if you use the right units..

Thermal Resistance = 1/thermal conductivity

so if the total thermal conductivity of material n is TCn then

Total Thermal Cond. = 1/(1/TC1 + 1/TC2 + 1/TC3...+ 1/TCn)

Be careful about the units used for any source data. Many countries use R-Value or U-Value to mean different things. Sometime data is specified "per unit thickness" (eg per meter thickness) and sometimes the data is provided for the particular thickness of the product. It's not unknown for advertisers to try and confuse people by quoting the figure for the raw material used (eg per meter thickness) leaving you to work out how good (or bad) their 5mm thick product really is compared to thicker alternatives.

The thermal conductivity data down this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_thermal_conductivities

is the value per meter thickness. You will need to scale the value to suit whatever thickness of lamination you have before working out the total for a combination. Not hard to do. If you have 100mm rather than 1 meter then the Thermal Conductivity goes up by a factor of 10.

For info I believe the best insulator is still Silica Aerogel which for any given thickness is about twice as good as PIR and PUR foams. Bit expensive though.
 
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Example. Calculate total thermal conductivity of 100mm of concrete plus 150mm of polyeurathane.

From Wikipedia..

TC of 1m concrete is about 1 (eg a good conductor of heat)
TC of 1m Poly is about 0.02 (eg a good insulator)

both W.M-1.K-1


Scale..

TC of 100mm concrete = 1 * 1000/100 = 10
TC of 150mm Poly = 0.02 *1000/150 = 0.133

Total TC = 1(1/10 + 1/0.133) = 0.131

Which is quite close to that of the Poly alone.

Experts may say it's a bit more complicated than that. To do it accurately I think you need to take into account surface emissivity of the various layers but the above is usually good enough for designing houses.
 
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The above works for laminations where heat goes through each one after the other in "series".

Something like a wall with a window or a brick with a hole in has two materials effectively in "parallel". You can work out the thermal resistance or thermal conductivity for the combination using area weighting.

Some objects will have a combination of materials in series and parallel. It's just a matter of breaking it down into manageable layers/bits. There is an analogy with electrical resistors which can be connected in any number of ways and combinations.

It's interesting to read how aerogel works. All to do with pore size and the mean free path of gas molecules.

I've no idea if it's possible to calculate the conductivity of mixtures like bread dough - I imagine it's best to measure it!
 
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