Common area between two circles.

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The discussion revolves around finding the area common to two circles defined by the equations x² + y² = 4 and x² + y² = 6x, with a focus on using polar coordinates for the solution.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the area by integrating in polar coordinates, considering the area above the x-axis and doubling the result. Some participants question the setup of the integrals and suggest alternative methods, such as finding the area of the second circle outside the first and using intersection points for integration.

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Participants are exploring various methods to approach the problem, including double integrals and alternative geometric interpretations. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the results obtained through different coordinate systems, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

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There are indications of discrepancies between results obtained using Cartesian and polar coordinates, and participants are questioning the assumptions made in their calculations.

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I am currently trying to figure out a problem in polar coordinates:
Find the area common to the two circles x2 + y2 = 4, x2 + y2 = 6x.

Using polar coordinates I know the two equations of the circles are r=2 and r=6 cos(theta) respectively. What I tried to do was find the area over the x-axis first then double the result to provide the entire area.

What I thought would be this top area would be the sum of the double integrals from theta limits 0->acos(1/3) and r limits 6cos(theta)->4/6 for r dr d(theta)+ theta limits 0->acos(1/3) and r limits 4/6->2sin(theta) for r dr d(theta).

However I don't think this is right as both integrals provide a result that is either negative or too large to be the value within the designated area.
 
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Is this what you have?
[tex]\int_{\theta = 0}^{arccos(1/3)} \int_{r = 0}^2 r dr d\theta + \int_{\theta = arccos(1/3)}^{\pi/2} \int_{r = 6 cos(\theta)}^0 r dr d\theta[/tex]
 
I think the best thing to do would be to find the area of the portion of the second circle that is outside the first circle and subtract that from the area of the second circle. I don't see why you would need to do a double integral. Find the [itex]\theta[/itex] values for the intersections of the two circles and integrate [itex](6cos(\theta)- 2)(rd\theta)[/itex] over that interval.
 
That makes much more sense to me. Thank you!
 
Originally I thought I had done this question correctly using cartesians, but my previous answers don't equate to the same values as the ones through polar coordinates. i used double integrals for this solution as well as a sum from between the y-axis and x=2/3 and between x=2/3 and x=2. Is there a better way I am not seeing?
 

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