Commutator of covariant derivatives

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The discussion centers on the commutator of covariant derivatives, specifically the expression for the field strength tensor \( F_{jk} \) derived from the covariant derivative \( D_\mu = \partial_\mu - ig A_\mu \). The equality \( F_{jk} = \partial_j A_k - \partial_k A_j - ig [A_j, A_k] \) is established through the calculation of the commutator \( [D_j, D_k] \). Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the action of operators on functions and the implications of operator composition in this context.

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Hi there
I came across this paper.
the author defines a covariant derivative in (1.3)
##D_\mu = \partial_\mu - ig A_\mu##
He defines in (1.6)
##F_{jk} = i/g [D_j,D_k]##
Why is it equal to ##\partial_j A_k - \partial_k A_j - ig [A_j, A_k]##?
I suppose that it comes from a property of Lie derivatives.
Thanks
 
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Just put the definition of ## D_\mu ## in ## [D_\mu,D_\nu] ## and calculate!
You can apply the above operator on a scalar field, i.e. calculate ## [D_\mu,D_\nu]\phi ## to avoid confusion.
 
Why does ##A_j \partial_k## disappear?
 
naima said:
Why does ##A_j \partial_k## disappear?

What you have is a commutator of operators, in order to compute the commutator - which is another operator - you need to consider the action of the commutator.

I suggest you start with the following example with two operators acting on functions on the real line:

Operator ##A## is such that ##Af(x) = A(x)f(x)##, where ##A(x)## is a function.
Operator ##B## is the derivative operator such that ##Bf(x) = f'(x)##.

The commutator ##[A,B]## is the operator such that ##[A,B]f(x) = (AB - BA)f(x)## for all ##f##. What is this operator?
 
Thank you

This shows that when you have product of operators D and B acting on a vector V, the notation DBV may be considered as a compositiion law
D(BV) or else (DB) V if you can give sense to (DB)
IF D and B are patrices the internal law of multiplication gives
(DB)V = D(BV)
here (DB) = D(B .)
If D is a derivative we have D(BV) = (DB)V + B (DV)
This gives a sense to (DB)
here (DB) = DB - BD

So the equality in the paper comes from an implicit choice for the product of operators.
Unless it is based on a more intrinsic way to mix covariant derivatives.
 
It does not matter whether D and B are matrices or linear operators on a general function space (including derivatives). The commutator [D,B] is defined as the linear operator such that [D,B]f = D(Bf) - B(Df) for all f in the vector space that the operators act on.

If D is a derivative and B is multiplication by a function b, you have D(Bf) = D(bf) = f (Db) + b(Df) = f(Db) + B(Df) and therefore D(Bf) - B(Df) = [D,B]f = f (Db), i.e., the commutator [D,B] is multiplication by the function Db. Note that I have used capital and lower case Bs to distinguish DB (operator product) from Db (a function).
 

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