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This discussion focuses on deriving the Euler-Lagrange equations for slowly modulated surface gravity waves using an averaged Lagrangian defined as \(\mathcal{L}=\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}Ld\theta\). The variables \(\theta_x=k\) and \(\theta_t=-\omega\) represent wave number and frequency, respectively. The primary equation under consideration is \(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \theta}-\frac{\partial }{\partial x }\frac{\partial L}{\partial \theta_x}-\frac{\partial }{\partial t}\frac{\partial L}{\partial \theta_t}=0\). The discussion reveals that while the first term of the integrated equation vanishes due to periodicity, the relationship between the averaged Lagrangian and the second derivatives remains complex and requires further assumptions about the periodicity of \(L\) and its derivatives.

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Hi,

I'm concerned with finding the Euler-Lagrange equations for slowly modulated surface gravity waves and, as is custom in this type of physical problem, I would like to consider the averaged Lagrangian defined as

\mathcal{L}=\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}Ld\theta

where \theta is defined as \theta_x=k and \theta_t=-\omega where k and $\omega$ represent wave number and frequency respectively, which can also be functions of space and time. My Lagrangian, which comes from the physics of the problem, is L=L(\theta;x,t) and the Euler-Lagrange equation then becomes

\frac{\partial L}{\partial \theta}-\frac{\partial }{\partial x }\frac{\partial L}{\partial \theta_x}-\frac{\partial }{\partial t}\frac{\partial L}{\partial \theta_t}=0

If I integrate the above equation over \theta from 0 to 2\pi and normalize, I know the first term goes to 0 because L is periodic (which again comes from the physics). So I'm trying to see if I can write the rest of equation in terms of the averaged Lagrangian, \mathcal{L}. So my question is this, how does the term

\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{\partial }{\partial x }\frac{\partial L}{\partial \theta_x} \ d\theta

relate to

\frac{\partial }{\partial x }\frac{\partial }{\partial \theta_x} \mathcal{L}

Thanks!
Nick
 
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I don't see any simple relation between the two.Although L is periodic, its second order derivatives may not be so.
 
What if we make the additional assumption that L and all of its derivatives are periodic?
 

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