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News Company gets $77 Million for an airport. From YOU.

  1. Oct 8, 2011 #1
    This is just over the top: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/10/07/tuchman-alaska-airport.cnn

    How is it that Trident, a corporation, managed to talk those who control the purse strings into letting Trident pay just $1 Million while we pay more than $60 Million for an airport in a location that will often be unuseable (winds/weather). "This is not something that's being handed to us. It's something that we've earned."

    Really? "You need to turn the camera off." Really?

    What Congressman called in "favors" to get others to go in on this deal?
     
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  3. Oct 8, 2011 #2

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    Not from ME.
    Nana nana boo boo... I'm Canadian. :tongue:
     
  4. Oct 8, 2011 #3
    Anyone want to bet within one month of the airport's opening, the residents of Akutan will complain to the FAA about the noise? ;-)
     
  5. Oct 8, 2011 #4
    I'm not sure how I feel about this one. The town has 100 people, but how many work at Trident, and how many other people (outside the 100) work there? What size airport are we talking about here? Would the airport allow the island to expand? Does the cost include a plane? I think a 737 runs about 50-60 million itself. It probably is a huge waste of money, but it looks to me like there is also a pretty big spin on this story. How long has that town been there? How much have they paid in for taxes that cover services that they will never use or see?
     
  6. Oct 8, 2011 #5
    haha, they're going to use it to ship out seafood, aren't they? the price tag seems ridiculous for a landing strip, but i guess they've got to move a lot of earth/rock, eh?
     
  7. Oct 8, 2011 #6

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    Shoot, Trident has something like 1000 people working there so the subsidy is only $60,000 per employee. When compared to the hundreds of thousands of dollars PER JOB that we are paying to subsidize "green" jobs, it's a bargain.

    Oh, wait ... two wrongs don't make a right.
     
  8. Oct 8, 2011 #7
    The video to which I linked said 1,100, for a total of 1,200.

    Haven't a clue, but I would imagine something like a 737. Speaking of which...

    I think an airline would handle that aspect. I wonder how much it costs to ferry people by ship vs airplane?

    Some of the buildings looked decades old.

    This could be said about a lot of us!
     
  9. Oct 11, 2011 #8
    It's not uncommon for the county or city to pave/upkeep roads in newly created residential areas. The same goes for roads, bypasses, bridges - many are built to accommidate a private entity moreso than the public. Why is this much different?

    Much of our nation's infrastructure is 'built on demand' and now there's a demand for a public airport there *shrug*. Is it a little much in austere times? Probably, but like was said earlier - how much are we paying for failed projects, whereas at least this project is a proven good and will be used by someone (at a much lower cost).
     
  10. Oct 11, 2011 #9
    Maybe the question should be - why does a remote runway to ship seafood to the lower 48 cost $70 Million?
     
  11. Oct 13, 2011 #10
    Atlanta's 9000ft x 170ft runway cost $1.28 billion. However, that was probably rated for aircraft much larger than a 737, and also probably included all lighting and additional navigational aids. Here's another: " The runway and tower cost $457 million and took about three years to construct, including demolition of property on 126 acres of land in Des Plaines, Ill., the airport acquired." From: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203739404574290030754087254.html

    And who said it's to ship seafood? Seafood keeps well enough on ice, and it's far cheaper to ship it via boat.

    However, if one plane can ferry workers around the clock on 12-hr shifts while cutting transit time from several hours down to half an hour, that can make up for the cost of operating the aircraft. It's not that it's cheaper to ferry people by airplane. It's that it's cheaper to pay them for 30 min of their time than 3 hours.

    Consider 1,100 workers a day currently on 12-hour shifts. Elevate that to 2,200 workers and it's 2.5 hours at, say, $10 an hour, times 2,200, or $55,000 per day.

    Anyone know how much it costs to operate a 737?
     
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