Comparing theoretical calculations with experimental data

In summary, the conversation discusses the need for a simple statistical comparison of experimental data with six theoretical models. The goal is to understand which theoretical calculation is more consistent with the experimental data, but the specific method to use is unclear. Three possible approaches are mentioned, including a straight Bayesian model comparison, the Bayesian Information Criterion, and the Akaike Information Criterion. The purpose of this comparison is for personal interest and not for making important decisions. The conversation also touches upon the idea of fitting the models to the experimental data, but it is suggested that the variation in the data may be too great for this to be a sensible approach.
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How to compare theoretical calculations results obtained with six models with one exact experimental data?
Dear users,

The situation I have encountered is a simple statistical comparison of the experimental data, which accepted as correct, with the results obtained via six theoretical models.

In the experimental data, there exist y values corresponding to x values and also the measurement errors of y values. In theoretical values, there exist y values corresponding to the same x values as the experimental data. Theoretical values are calculated with six different models. I've uploaded an excel file as an example.

I would like to have a simple statistical comparison to understand which theoretical calculation is more consistent with the experimental data but not sure which method to use. I've calculated mean weighted deviation and RMSE yet outputs have pointed different models as the most consistent one. I do not need advanced model comparison methods. Any simple and logical method works for me. Thanks in advance for your comments and time.
 

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There are three approaches that I am aware of. The first is a straight Bayesian model comparison. Unfortunately, this requires quite a bit of care in selecting good priors for all of your model parameters. From your description of your goals it is probably “overkill”.

The next two are closely related. You can calculate either the Bayesian Information Criterion or the Akaike Information Criterion. I prefer the BIC over the AIC since it penalizes model complexity more, which I think is important. Many statistical packages implement both the BIC and the AIC
 
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parazit said:
Summary: How to compare theoretical calculations results obtained with six models with one exact experimental data?
Do the models make deterministic predictions? - or are they probabilistic models that predict a mean value of Y with some variation about it?
I would like to have a simple statistical comparison to understand which theoretical calculation is more consistent with the experimental data

Any simple and logical method works for me.

The common language meanings of "more consistent" and "simple and logical" aren't specific enough to describe particular statistical methods.

If you can't be more specific with technicalities, I suggest that you describe your bottom line goal. If some statistical method ranks models in some way, what effect will that have? Are you doing statistics for your own personal use or are the conclusions to be publicized? Will some important decision be influenced - like how to build a chemical factory or how to make an investment? Or is the intended effect less specific - for example, to argue for or against a particular theory of economics?
 
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Dale said:
There are three approaches that I am aware of. The first is a straight Bayesian model comparison. Unfortunately, this requires quite a bit of care in selecting good priors for all of your model parameters. From your description of your goals it is probably “overkill”.

The next two are closely related. You can calculate either the Bayesian Information Criterion or the Akaike Information Criterion. I prefer the BIC over the AIC since it penalizes model complexity more, which I think is important. Many statistical packages implement both the BIC and the AIC

Thank you for spending time to respond. I do not know about the methods you've mentioned, but I'm going to try study and understand them.
 
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First of all, please forgive my English. Since I am not so good at it, I may not be able to express myself as I intend.

Stephen Tashi said:
Do the models make deterministic predictions? - or are they probabilistic models that predict a mean value of Y with some variation about it?

Models perform mathematical operations using different parameters and variables where x values are common to all models. y values are the results of mathematical operations. All models have similar approaches in the mathematical operations but include different parameters that result different outcomes.

Stephen Tashi said:
If some statistical method ranks models in some way, what effect will that have? Are you doing statistics for your own personal use or are the conclusions to be publicized? Will some important decision be influenced - like how to build a chemical factory or how to make an investment? Or is the intended effect less specific - for example, to argue for or against a particular theory of economics?

The purpose of the comparison of models is only to try to understand which model is more compatible. This is just for my own personal interest. The examples you've mentioned are very extreme situations to me, and my intention has nothing to do with them. I'm just trying to figure out how to compare the results in an acceptable and intelligent way.

Please forgive me for taking your time. I know that no one has an obligation to lecture me or to give explanations to me in order to compensate my academic deficiency, but I would be very grateful if you could guide me simply.

Best regards.
 
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Plot your experimental data and the 'models'. I think you will see that the variation in the experimental data is too great to sensibly fit anything. Having said that, all of the models seem to underestimate results in the range x = 15 to 20: can you see that on the plot?
 

What is the purpose of comparing theoretical calculations with experimental data?

The purpose of comparing theoretical calculations with experimental data is to validate the accuracy and reliability of the theoretical model. By comparing the results of the theoretical calculations with actual experimental data, scientists can determine if their model accurately represents the real-world phenomenon.

What are the potential sources of discrepancies between theoretical calculations and experimental data?

There are several potential sources of discrepancies between theoretical calculations and experimental data. These can include experimental errors, limitations of the theoretical model, and unaccounted for variables in the experimental setup.

How do scientists determine the significance of discrepancies between theoretical calculations and experimental data?

Scientists use statistical analysis and other methods to determine the significance of discrepancies between theoretical calculations and experimental data. This allows them to determine if the differences are within an acceptable margin of error or if they indicate a need for further refinement of the theoretical model.

What steps can be taken to improve the accuracy of theoretical calculations?

To improve the accuracy of theoretical calculations, scientists can incorporate more precise and comprehensive data, refine the theoretical model based on experimental findings, and consider the impact of any potential sources of error. Collaborating with other experts in the field can also help identify areas for improvement.

How can comparing theoretical calculations with experimental data contribute to scientific advancements?

Comparing theoretical calculations with experimental data is crucial for scientific advancements as it allows for the refinement and validation of theoretical models. By identifying areas of discrepancy, scientists can improve their understanding of a phenomenon and potentially make new discoveries or develop more accurate models for future research.

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