Comparing TTL and CMOS Gate Characteristics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around comparing the input and output characteristics of TTL and CMOS NAND gates based on experimental data. Participants are exploring the differences in input threshold voltage, input current for logic 0, output voltage for logic levels 1 and 0, as well as sourcing and sinking currents.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that CMOS has low power consumption but is unsure how to apply this information to their data.
  • Another participant provides specific measurements for input current for logic 0, output sourcing current, and input high threshold voltage for both CMOS and TTL, highlighting significant differences.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about how to interpret the differences in their measurements and what characteristic differences they represent.
  • A suggestion is made to consider the term "fan out" in relation to the two logic gate technologies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there are significant differences in the characteristics of the two gate technologies, but they do not reach a consensus on what these differences imply or how to interpret them.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for additional measurements, such as current drawn from the power supply, to make a more informed comparison regarding power efficiency.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying digital logic design, particularly those interested in the characteristics and comparisons of different logic gate technologies.

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Homework Statement


We just did an experiment on the input and output characteristics of TTL and CMOS NAND gates. We recorded the following data for each of the two gates.
1) Input Threshold Voltage
2) Input Current(for input logic 1 and 0)
3) Output Voltage(for output logic 1 and 0)
4) Output Sourcing Current(for 3 voltages)
5) Output Sinking Current

We haven't had the lecture on this topic so I'm quite unclear about this. We are required to compare both devices with regard to:
i) input threshold voltage and measured input current for logic 0 input
ii) output voltage for logic level 1 and 0
iii) sourcing current and sinking current


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The Attempt at a Solution


From what I've read online, CMOS is said to have low power consumption. But i don't know how to apply this information to answer my questions. I would like to know some basic infomation related to this topic and the question so I can answer these question by looking at my own data.

Thanks.
 
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Tell us what differences you noticed in:

1. Input current for logic 0.

2. Output sourcing current.

3. Input high threshold voltage.
 
uart said:
Tell us what differences you noticed in:

1. Input current for logic 0.

2. Output sourcing current.

3. Input high threshold voltage.

1.CMOS: 0mA, TTL: -0.2mA

2. (Voltages used: 3.5V, 3.25V, 3.0V) CMOS: 3.3mA, 3.6mA, 4.0mA. TTL: 0.06mA, 18.6mA, 27.1mA

3. CMOS: 2.68V, TTL: 1.025V

I'm not sure what to deduce from these
 
Zeuss1220 said:
I'm not sure what to deduce from these
Not much at all as far as power efficiency goes. You really needed to measure the current drawn from the power supply under various conditions to be able to make an enlightened comparison of power demands.

But with the lab's purpose being to compare thresholds and drive capabilities, you are not really looking at power efficiency.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Not much at all as far as power efficiency goes. You really needed to measure the current drawn from the power supply under various conditions to be able to make an enlightened comparison of power demands.

But with the lab's purpose being to compare thresholds and drive capabilities, you are not really looking at power efficiency.

So how do you think I should answer the 3 questions above? What are the characteristic differences involved?
 
Zeuss1220 said:
1.CMOS: 0mA, TTL: -0.2mA

2. (Voltages used: 3.5V, 3.25V, 3.0V) CMOS: 3.3mA, 3.6mA, 4.0mA. TTL: 0.06mA, 18.6mA, 27.1mA

3. CMOS: 2.68V, TTL: 1.025V

I'm not sure what to deduce from these

Those are some pretty significant differences in input-loading, output current sourcing, and input threshold. Yes?
 
uart said:
Those are some pretty significant differences in input-loading, output current sourcing, and input threshold. Yes?

Yes. But I don't how what characteristic differences they represent.
 
Zeuss1220 said:
Yes. But I don't how what characteristic differences they represent.
There is an important term "fan out". (Try googling it.) Address that as it applies to your two different logic gate technologies.
 

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