Comparison of two Thermal Physics Books

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on comparing two thermal physics textbooks, "Thermal Physics" by Kittel and "Classical and Statistical Thermodynamics" by Ashley Carter, in the context of preparing for a Ph.D. qualifier exam. Participants explore the depth and breadth of material covered in each book, particularly in relation to thermodynamics and statistical mechanics.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Austin seeks to understand how Kittel and Carter compare in terms of the amount of material covered, particularly for advanced undergraduate level thermodynamics.
  • Some participants suggest that Carter is less advanced and formal than Kittel, with less emphasis on statistical physics.
  • One participant notes that Carter does not cover canonical or grand canonical formalism, which may be expected knowledge for the Ph.D. qualifier.
  • Austin mentions feeling comfortable with statistical mechanics but is more concerned about the classical thermodynamics aspect of the comparison.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the comparison, having only used Kittel in their courses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the depth of coverage in the two textbooks, with some agreeing that Kittel is more advanced while others are uncertain about the specifics of the comparison. The discussion does not reach a consensus on which book is definitively better for the exam preparation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific details on the content of each book and how they align with the exam requirements. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with the material covered in both texts.

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Hello everyone!

I am taking my Physics Ph. D. Qualifier on Friday and Saturday. During Saturday's exam we will be tested on E&M and Thermodynamics/Statistical Mechanics. We get to take 2 books to each exam, so I basically can take 1 Thermo Book with me (I'm also taking Griffiths on Saturday). The exam is supposed to cover material up to "advanced undergraduate," and, for Thermo specifically, to the level of Kittel: "Thermal Physics."

As an undergrad, we used "Classical and Statistical Thermodynamics" by Ashley Carter. Did anyone else use this book? Does anyone know how Kittel and Carter compare (in terms of the amount of material covered)?

If there is a great deal more material covered in Kittel, I may try to get it to study and take it on Saturday. Otherwise, I'll just use Carter, especially since that is the one I am used to.

Thanks for your time, y'all.
Austin
 
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I don't know the book, but if I were you I would definitely skim through Kittel to make sure you know all the stuff you should. (although it's a bit late to learn new material)

After reading some reviews, it seems that Carter is less advanced/formal than Kittel, with less emphasis on statistical physics. One reviewer even said
it's also at a very basic level - it doesn't cover canonical or grand canonical formalism at all
If that's true, I'm wishing you good luck. I can't imagine that the Phd qualifier does not expect you to know canonical and grand canonical...
 
Landau said:
I don't know the book, but if I were you I would definitely skim through Kittel to make sure you know all the stuff you should. (although it's a bit late to learn new material)

After reading some reviews, it seems that Carter is less advanced/formal than Kittel, with less emphasis on statistical physics. One reviewer even said
If that's true, I'm wishing you good luck. I can't imagine that the Phd qualifier does not expect you to know canonical and grand canonical...

Hi Landau,

Thanks for replying. Actually, I've already had Statistical Mechanics here (i.e., at the graduate level), so I feel pretty comfortable on that front (as in, canonical and grand canonical roll off my tongue :-p ). It's more the classical thermodynamics aspect that I wanted to compare.

Austin
 
Ah, that's good! :) Since much of Kittel's book is statistical, you'll probably be fine anyway. I'm afraid I can't help you with the comparison, I only used Kittel in my two Thermal Physic bachelor courses. Good luck!
 
Alrighty, that's great to hear. Thanks for your time and wishing me luck!

Now back to studying...:smile:
 

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