Complete Removal of Matter from Space

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of completely removing all matter and energy from a specific region in space. Participants explore the implications of such an action, considering both philosophical and theoretical perspectives.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what remains if all matter and energy is removed from a region of space, suggesting a vacuum as a possible outcome.
  • Another participant argues that the scenario is absurd and impossible to answer, prompting inquiries into the curiosity behind the question.
  • A participant relates the question to discussions in a Cosmology class, indicating that it has been considered by others despite its absurdity.
  • One participant proposes that such a region would theoretically exist at absolute zero temperature, while questioning the feasibility of this concept.
  • Another participant expresses a similar curiosity about the theoretical possibility of such a region existing, despite acknowledging its empirical impossibility.
  • One participant asserts that an area devoid of mass and energy would equate to non-existence.
  • A later reply clarifies that removing air from a region would result in a vacuum macroscopically, but microscopically, elementary particles would still be present, popping in and out of existence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the absurdity of the scenario while others explore its theoretical implications. No consensus is reached regarding the nature of what remains in such a situation.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of the scenario, including its dependence on definitions of existence and the unresolved nature of whether such a region can theoretically exist.

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What is left if all matter and energy is removed from a particular region in space?

For example, say I completely remove all of the matter and energy from a region of the air in front of me (also assuming no matter or energy moves in and out of this space once I do this), then what is left?
 
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Because the scenario is absurd, it's a question impossible to answer. May I ask why you're so curious about that?
 
Someone brought up when discussing origins of matter in Cosmology class. I know other people have thought about it before and have possible opinions/logic to it even if it is absurd (which it is but it does lie at the heart of the origin of matter). I suppose it could be construed as a philosophical question but was interested in what others thought.
 
What comes to my mind is an area where there is absolutely nothing and is at temperature of absolute zero. But I'm wondering whether such area can exist even in theory.
 
That is exactly what I'm wondering too. I know it's not empirically possible but could it be theoretically possible?
 
Imho, such area is the very definition of non-existence. If there's no mass nor energy it does not exist.
 
brookssp said:
What is left if all matter and energy is removed from a particular region in space?

For example, say I completely remove all of the matter and energy from a region of the air in front of me (also assuming no matter or energy moves in and out of this space once I do this), then what is left?
You mean removing the air from "a region of the air in front of me", right? Then you will have, macroscopically, a vacuum but, microscopically, there will be elementary particles popping into and out of existence all the time.
 

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