Computing Cylinder Pressure from Temperature Trace

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This discussion focuses on calculating cylinder pressure from temperature traces in an engine model that incorporates isentropic compression and expansion, as well as combustion using lower heating value (LHV) for temperature changes. The user reports a peak cylinder temperature of approximately 2800 C leading to an implausible cylinder pressure of around 3700 bar, indicating a miscalculation. The user employs the isentropic expansion equation (P2/P1 = (T2/T1)^(g/g-1)) but acknowledges that real engines experience polytropic processes rather than ideal isentropic ones, which may contribute to the discrepancies observed.

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  • Understanding of isentropic processes in thermodynamics
  • Familiarity with combustion thermodynamics and lower heating value (LHV)
  • Knowledge of the isentropic expansion equation
  • Concept of polytropic processes and their equations
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I'm just trying to put together a very basic engine model with extremely limited combustion. Basically, I am modeling isentropic compression, combustion (using LHV to calculate the delta T), and isentropic expansion.

At the moment, I am calculating a peak cylinder temperature under motoring of ~400 C and a peak cylinder temperature under firing (5 deg BTDC) of ~2800 C. This puts my exhaust gas temperature around ~1200 C, which all seems to make sense. I am using a compression ratio of 8:1 and air standard conditions.

However, when I try to convert these numbers to a cylinder pressure, my ~2800 C point is exploding to ~3700 bar! Obviously, this is not correct. I am using an isentropic expansion equation (P2/P1 = (T2/T1)^(g/g-1)).

Any ideas? Can anyone double check my reasoning and let me know what you get?
 
Part of the discrepancy might be that in a real engine you don't have isentropic compression or expansion, where PV^k=constant, k being 1.40. Considering heat losses, it's polytropic expansion and compression, so PV^n=constant, where n is about 1.30.
 

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