Computing $\sigma_N(f;t)$ from $s_n(f;t)$

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The discussion revolves around the computation of the function $\sigma_N(f;t)$ from the series $s_n(f;t)$, specifically exploring the transition between two formulations of $\sigma_N(f;t)$. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical exploration of summation techniques.

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  • One participant presents the relationship between $s_n(f;t)$ and $\sigma_N(f;t)$, seeking clarification on how to derive the second formulation of $\sigma_N(f;t)$ from the first.
  • Another participant questions the implications of reversing the order of summation in the expressions, suggesting that this could lead to different insights or results.
  • Subsequent posts express frustration with the pace of responses in the forum, with some participants providing counterexamples to illustrate their points about forum activity.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to derive the second formulation of $\sigma_N(f;t)$, and the discussion includes multiple viewpoints regarding the order of summation and the pace of the forum.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the mathematical steps involved in the summation and the implications of changing the order of summation, which may depend on specific conditions or definitions not fully explored in the discussion.

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suppose, [tex]s_{n}(f;t) = \sum_{k=-n}^{n}\widehat{f}(k)e^{ikt}[/tex]
and
[tex]\sigma_{N}(f;t)= \frac{1}{N+1}\sum_{n=0}^{N}s_{n}(f;t)[/tex].

how do i get from this [tex]\sigma_{N}(f;t)= \frac{1}{N+1}\sum_{n=0}^{N}s_{n}(f;t)[/tex].

to this


[tex]\sigma_{N}(f;t)= \sum_{n=-N}^{N}(1-\frac{|n|}{N+1})\widehat{f}(n)e^{int}[/tex]

obviously one starts with:

[tex]\sigma_{N}(f;t)=\frac{1}{N+1}\sum_{n=0}^{N}\sum_{k=-n}^{n}\widehat{f}(k)e^{ikt}[/tex]

thanks!
 
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And what happens when you reverse the order of summation ... the sum on k outside, the sum on n inside?
 
g_edgar said:
and what happens when you reverse the order of summation ... The sum on k outside, the sum on n inside?

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wow this must be slowest forum on the face of the planet
 
errordude said:
wow this must be slowest forum on the face of the planet

Perhaps, but remember we're not all free to check forums 25 hours a day, 8 days a week. Two hours 40 for what looks like a hint seems pretty good to me. Have you tried it?
 

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