Confusion (8) from Weinberg's QFT.(Lippmann-Schwinger eqn)

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The discussion revolves around a specific point in Weinberg's Quantum Field Theory text, particularly concerning the Lippmann-Schwinger equation and the treatment of integrals in the asymptotic past. Participants explore the implications of contour integration and the relationship between momentum and energy variables in the context of quantum states.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about how to derive an integral over the entire real line from an integral that appears to have a lower bound at the rest mass.
  • Another participant suggests that the integration is over dα, which includes an integral over momentum (dp), and that the momentum integral can be extended by symmetry to negative values.
  • A different participant challenges the assumption of symmetry due to the presence of the function g(α), indicating that it may not hold in all cases.
  • Further contributions clarify that the integral is indeed over dα and already extends across the entire real axis in each dimension, negating the need for extension.
  • There is a discussion about the difficulty of applying residue calculus since the denominator is expressed in terms of energy, with a suggestion that momentum integrals could be converted into energy integrals.

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Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are competing views regarding the treatment of the integrals and the implications of symmetry in the context of the function g(α).

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There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions made about the symmetry of the integrals and the treatment of energy versus momentum variables in the context of the Lippmann-Schwinger equation.

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I was reviewing the first few chapters of Weinberg VolI and found a hole in my understanding in page 112, where he tried to show in the asymptotic past t=-\infty, the in states coincide with a free state. In particular, he argued the integral \int d\alpha\frac{e^{-iE_{\alpha}t}g(\alpha)T_{\beta\alpha}^+\Phi_\beta}{E_\alpha-E_\beta+i\epsilon}\ldots(1) would vanish, where d\alpha=d^3\mathbf{p}(also involves discrete indices like spin, but of no relevance here). In his argument, he used a contour integration in the complex E_\alpha plane, in which the integral of central interest is the integration along real line \int_{-\infty}^\infty dE_\alpha\frac{e^{-iE_{\alpha}t}g(\alpha)T_{\beta\alpha}^+\Phi_\beta}{E_\alpha-E_\beta+i\epsilon}\ldots(2).
I don't see how to obtain (2) from (1), since the lower bound of energy is the rest mass, in the best case I could get something like \int_{m}^\infty dE_\alpha\cdots, but how could one extend this onto the whole real line.
 
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Well I think the answer is that he's not really integrating over dE, he's integrating over dα, which includes an integral over dp. E(p) is treated as just a variable that depends on p.

The integral over dp goes from 0 to ∞, which can be extended by symmetry to -∞. Then on the large semicircle, since both p and E ≈ pc go to infinity, he can make the argument that eiEt vanishes.
 
Bill_K said:
The integral over dp goes from 0 to ∞, which can be extended by symmetry to -∞.
But in most cases there is no such symmetry because of g(\alpha)
 
The integral over dp goes from 0 to ∞, which can be extended by symmetry to -∞.
I take it back. No extension is necessary. The integral is ∫ dα ≡ ∫-∞dpx-∞ dpy-∞dpz. It already extends along the entire real axis in each dimension, and all that needs to be done is to close the contour with a semicircle.

Repeat: it is not ∫ dEα, as you have it written. E is not the integration variable.
 
Bill_K said:
I take it back. No extension is necessary. The integral is ∫ dα ≡ ∫-∞dpx-∞ dpy-∞dpz. It already extends along the entire real axis in each dimension, and all that needs to be done is to close the contour with a semicircle.

Repeat: it is not ∫ dEα, as you have it written. E is not the integration variable.
But then it is hard to see how to apply residue calculus since the denominator is in terms of energy. If we want we can convert the momentum integral into energy integral, since d^3\mathbf{p}=p^2\sin\theta dpd\theta d\phi, and E_\alpha=\sqrt{p^2+m^2}, since by definition E_\alpha is the energy of a free particle labeled by \alpha
 

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