Confusion in using the continuity equation here

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The discussion revolves around the continuity equation in the context of fluid dynamics, specifically regarding the mass within a control volume and its time dependence. Participants are exploring the implications of uniform properties in a tank and how these relate to mass conservation principles.

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  • Participants are questioning the assumption that the mass within the system remains constant over time despite changes in the control volume. There is a discussion on the interpretation of the continuity equation and the definitions of system and control volume.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and references to previous discussions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of mass flow and the continuity equation, but there is no explicit consensus on the assumptions being questioned.

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Homework Statement
I feel that the mass within the system changes over time, but this perception contradicts the solution.
Relevant Equations
continuity equation
Q: Why does assuming "Properties in the tank are uniform, but time-dependent" lead to the validity of
(DmDt)sys=0? Doesn't the mass within the system change over time?
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tracker890 Source h said:
Homework Statement: I feel that the mass within the system changes over time, but this perception contradicts the solution.
Relevant Equations: continuity equation

Q: Why does assuming "Properties in the tank are uniform, but time-dependent" lead to the validity of
(DmDt)sys=0? Doesn't the mass within the system change over time?
reference.
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The mass of the system is the total mass, i.e. what’s inside and what’s outside the control volume at a particular time. It is invariant (at least in classical physics?). at ##t=0## all of the system is inside the control volume, as time progresses some portion of the system is outside. That ∫ on the left (unsteady) represents what portion of the system is inside (only) the control volume at a particular time.

Summarizing: The system is not the control volume. The system is the stuff (matter) inside the control volume, on its way into the control volume, or what has left the control volume.
 
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To add a little to @erobz, the first integral ##\int_{\small CV}\rho dV## is the instantaneous mass within the control volume. This mass changes with time. So, ##\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\int_{\small CV}\rho dV## represents the rate of change of mass within the tank. The second integral represents the rate at which mass is flowing out through the neck of the container.
 
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