Confussion with setting up loading conditions on cylinder

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the setup of loading conditions for a horizontally supported cylindrical tube in a simulation environment, specifically focusing on how to apply gravitational loads correctly within the modeling software Abaqus. The scope includes technical aspects of modeling and simulation in engineering contexts.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a cylindrical tube fixed at both ends and expresses confusion about applying gravitational load in the simulation.
  • Another participant suggests that the gravitational load is uniformly distributed over the volume of the tube's material.
  • A participant seeks clarification on how to set up loading conditions on a cylindrical surface for gravity, noting the orientation of the cylinder and the direction of gravitational force.
  • There is a question about whether the participant is using a shell model or a 3D model for the tube.
  • The original poster confirms they are using a 3D model and expresses a preference against using cylindrical coordinates to avoid coordinate transformations.
  • A later reply mentions that the distributed gravitational force per unit volume can be expressed as ρg, where ρ is the density.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the uniform distribution of gravitational load but have differing views on the modeling approach and coordinate systems to use, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method for applying the load.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the coordinate systems and the specific modeling techniques being employed, which may affect the application of gravitational loads.

roldy
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I have a horizontally supported cylindrical tube that is fixed at both ends. I modeled half of it to run the simulation on in Abaqus. The only load that it has is its weight. What I get confused at with cylindrical geometry is applying the load. How should I apply the gravitational load and at what location?
 
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Isn't the gravitational load uniformly distributed over the volume of material comprising the tube?

Chet
 
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That is correct. I just wasn't sure how to set up the loading conditions on a cylindrical surface for gravity.
 
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roldy said:
That is correct. I just wasn't sure how to set up the loading conditions on a cylindrical surface for gravity.
The cylinder is horizontal and you are using cylindrical coordinates, correct? So the z axis of the cylindrical coordinate system is horizontal. But, gravity is acting downward. Can you represent the direction of gravity in terms of the circumferential coordinate θ and the cylindrical coordinate unit vectors?

Are you using a shell model or a 3D model? Or, are you treating the tube like a beam?

Chet
 
I am not using cylindrical coordinates, I don't want to have to do any coordinate transformations afterwards. I am using a 3D model that I created.
 
roldy said:
I am not using cylindrical coordinates, I don't want to have to do any coordinate transformations afterwards. I am using a 3D model that I created.
The (distributed) gravitational force per unit volume is equal to ρg, where ρ is the density.
 

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