Constant of Integration when calculating displacement

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The discussion centers on the integration of the speed of a pendulum bob in simple harmonic motion to find displacement. The integration yields a constant of integration, which is significant for determining the initial conditions of the system. The confusion arises regarding the initial position of the pendulum at t=0, where it should be at maximum displacement, not at rest in the center. Participants clarify that in simple harmonic motion, the pendulum's velocity is maximum at the center and zero at the extremes, emphasizing the importance of correctly applying initial conditions. The constant of integration cannot be ignored, as it directly affects the displacement calculation.
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Homework Statement


The speed of a pendulum bob moving in simple harmonic motion is given by v = 1.26sin(2πt) where v is in m/s and t is time in seconds.

Homework Equations


s = ∫ v dt

The Attempt at a Solution



v = 1.26sin(2πt)

Integrating v yields

s = -0.2cos(2πt) + c

and solving for c where s, t = 0 yields c = 0.2 (as cos 2πt = 1 when t = 0), meaning that s = 0.2 - 0.2cos(2πt)

The answer in the back of the textbook seems to ignore this fact, simply stating that the displacement is equal to -0.2cos(2πt).

My question is this: does the constant of integration always matter when integrating like this to find displacements and velocities? Can it be "ignored"? Is the back of my textbook lying to me about the answer? :wink:
 
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RubiksMelia said:
and solving for c where s, t = 0 yields c = 0.2 (as cos 2πt = 1 when t = 0), meaning that s = 0.2 - 0.2cos(2πt)
You can see at t=0, the pendulum has zero velocity, meaning it is at one of the extremities. So, at t=0, the displacement should be maximum.
 
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cnh1995 said:
You can see at t=0, the pendulum has zero velocity, meaning it is at one of the extremities. So, at t=0, the displacement should be maximum.

But, at t = 0, shouldn't the pendulum be at rest in the center (rather than the left or right extremity)?
 
The constant of integration matters and it is calculated by the initial conditions.
You seem to take as initial condition s(0)=0, but this is not correct and the reason is as cnh1995's post explains.
 
RubiksMelia said:
But, at t = 0, shouldn't the pendulum be at rest in the center (rather than the left or right extremity)?
In SHM, the pendulum is at the center when its velocity is maximum. Its velocity goes on decreasing till the extremity, where it becomes zero. In SHM, t=0 does not mean the pendulum is at the center.
 
RubiksMelia said:
But, at t = 0, shouldn't the pendulum be at rest in the center (rather than the left or right extremity)?
. This means that s(0)=0, v(0)=0 but this means that the pendulum will stay at center and do nothing (the force is zero at the center).
 
cnh1995 said:
In SHM, the pendulum is at the center when its velocity is maximum. Its velocity goes on decreasing till the extremity, where it becomes zero. In SHM, t=0 does not mean the pendulum is at the center.
Thanks! I should have had a look at simple harmonic motion. Silly me for tackling a question before knowing what everything meant. Thanks to all for the help.
 

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