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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem related to turbulent flow between parallel flat plates, specifically focusing on the definitions and selection of constants in the equations governing the flow. Participants are exploring the implications of these constants on the model and seeking approximate solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving turbulent flow and defines the shear stress and Reynolds stresses in terms of constants a, b, c, and d.
  • Another participant points out a formatting issue in the original post and expresses their inability to assist with fluid dynamics questions.
  • A later reply questions the validity of the model when the Reynolds stress is set to zero at the boundaries, suggesting an alternative form that includes a cubic term in y.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the selection of constants or the validity of the proposed models, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the formulation of the turbulent flow equations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about boundary conditions and the behavior of the turbulent flow model, which may not be fully resolved or agreed upon by participants.

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Homework Statement



Hello!

I need some help with a problem:

Problem: Turbulent flow beteween parallel flat plates.

It is defined:

[ tex ] \tau = \mu \frac{d\bar{u}}{dy}-\rho\bar{u'v'} [ \tex ]

The exercise gives that [ tex ] \tau = a y [ \tex ] and [ tex ] \rho\bar{u'v'} = \frac{by}{c+dy^2} [ \tex ], where [ tex ] a,b,c,d[ \tex ] are constants.

I need to know: How can I choose these constants? I'm looking for an approximate solution.

Until now, I used just the no-slip condition at [ tex ] \pm H [ \tex ] and [ tex ] \frac{du(y=0)}{dy}=0 [ \tex ]

Tks for the help!

Homework Equations


[ tex ] \tau = \mu \frac{d\bar{u}}{dy}-\rho\bar{u'v'} [ \tex ]
[ tex ] \tau = a y [ \tex ]
[ tex ] \rho\bar{u'v'} = \frac{by}{c+dy^2} [ \tex ]

The Attempt at a Solution



 
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jkr said:
Hello!

I need some help with a problem:

Problem: Turbulent flow beteween parallel flat plates.

It is defined:

[tex]\tau = \mu \frac{d\bar{u}}{dy}-\rho\bar{u'v'}[/tex]

The exercise gives that [tex]\tau = a y[/tex] and [tex]\rho\bar{u'v'} = \frac{by}{c+dy^2}[/tex], where [tex]a,b,c,d[/tex] are constants.

I need to know: How can I choose these constants? I'm looking for an approximate solution.

Until now, I used just the no-slip condition at [tex]\pm H[/tex] and [tex]\frac{du(y=0)}{dy}=0[/tex]

Tks for the help!

Homework Equations


[tex]\tau = \mu \frac{d\bar{u}}{dy}-\rho\bar{u'v'}[/tex]
[tex]\tau = a y[/tex]
[tex]\rho\bar{u'v'} = \frac{by}{c+dy^2}[/tex]
Hi jkr! http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

I'm astonished that you posted your question with its non-functioning itex formatting instructions. I have fixed them for you. Don't include unnecessary spaces inside the [...] instruction. And its [/tex] NOT [\tex].

I can't help you with a fluidics question, but now maybe someone else can. :smile:
 
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Tks a lot for this! =D
 
Hi again,

If [tex]\rho \bar{u'v'} =0[/tex] at [tex]y = \pm H[/tex] then the model [tex]\rho \bar{u'v'}=\frac{by}{c+dy^2}[/tex] doesn't work because [tex]b=0.[/tex]
However, for the case
[tex]\rho \bar{u'v'} =\frac{by+ey^3}{c+dy^2},[/tex] How does it work?

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