Constructing a Non-Measurable Lim Sup Using a Collection of Functions

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The discussion focuses on constructing a collection of measurable functions \( f_n(x) \) such that the limit superior \( \limsup_{n \to \infty} f_n(x) \) is not measurable. The Vitali set is utilized as a key example, with the characteristic function \( X_a \) defined for elements \( a \) from the Vitali set. The participants explore the implications of using a decreasing sequence of subsets of \( \mathbb{Q} \) to maintain measurability for each \( A_n \) while ensuring that the intersection \( \bigcap_n A_n \) remains the Vitali set, which is not measurable.

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Give an example of a collection of functions f_n (x) for 0 < n< infinity each measurable but such that lim sup n->infinity f_n(x) is not measurable.

I think , this collection shouldn't be a sequence of functions otherwise lim sup would be measurable. So I tried with sup first:
Take V as Vitali set and define the collection as X_{a} where X_{a} is a characteristic function of set {a} and a comes from V. clearly sup is X_{V} which is not measurable. Any idea for the lim sup??
 
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Is it possible to choose a decreasing sequence (Q_n)_{n&gt;0} of subsets of \mathbb{Q} so that A_n = Q_n + V is measurable for each n but \textstyle\bigcap_n A_n = V?
 

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