Contact force of block on a wall

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The problem involves a block being pushed against a wall with a force, examining the contact force exerted by the block on the wall as the pushing force is gradually reduced. The context includes concepts of static friction and normal force in a physics setting.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the normal force and the static friction force, questioning the calculation of the contact force and its direction. There is an exploration of the correct interpretation of the forces acting on the block and the wall.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing insights into the components of the contact force and discussing the importance of significant figures in calculations. Multiple interpretations of the contact force's magnitude and direction are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the forces at play, including the static friction coefficient and the normal force, while also considering the implications of rounding in calculations.

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Homework Statement


In this sketch, the mass m = 1.6 kg is pushed against a wall by force F, as shown, in the horizontal direction. The values of the coefficients of kinetic and static friction for the contact between are 0.81 and 0.84 respectively. The magnitude of F is slowly and continuously reduced. Just before the block falls, what is the total contact force Fc exerted by the block on the wall. What is the magnitude of that force and what is the angle θ it makes with horizontal? (+ve for above, -ve for below the horizontal).

Homework Equations


Ff = μsN

The Attempt at a Solution



Since the block is not moving:
Input F = N
Ff = Fg

Therefore mg = μs*N

Rearrange we get

N = mg/μs
= (1.6*9.8)/0.84
= 18.66667
= 19(2 sig. fig.)

Since Input F = N, wouldn't the contact force of the mass onto the wall be 19N? Apparently this is wrong.
 

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There are two forces the wall exerts on the block. The problem is asking for the sum of the normal force and the force of static friction.
 
So that would be that the contact force is not horizontal, but instead has a magnitude of √((0.84*19)2+(19)2) = 24.81 = 25N at an angle of tan-1(0.84) = 40.03 = 40°?
 
vela said:
There are two forces the wall exerts on the block. The problem is asking for the sum of the normal force and the force of static friction.

So that would be that the contact force is not horizontal, but instead has a magnitude of √((0.84*19)2+(19)2) = 24.81 = 25N at an angle of tan-1(0.84) = 40.03 = 40°?
 
Yup, but I wouldn't use the rounded value for N in your calculations. Round to the correct number of sig figs only at the end of the calculation.
 
Thanks
 

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