Continuity equation and air flow

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the application of the continuity equation in air flow, particularly in the context of a frictionless air duct with varying dimensions. Participants examine whether the flow rate remains constant at all points along the duct under specific conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the application of the continuity equation in air flow, specifically in a duct with varying dimensions and constant velocity and temperature.
  • Another participant asserts that the mass of air entering a duct must equal the mass of air exiting, noting that factors like friction losses and velocity affect the flow in between.
  • A similar point is reiterated by another participant, emphasizing the role of gas dynamics and the conditions under which air flow can be treated as incompressible.
  • A participant challenges the characterization of incompressible equations as the "regular equations of fluid mechanics," suggesting that the continuity, Navier-Stokes, and energy equations are more fundamental, with incompressible flow equations being a simplification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the characterization of fluid mechanics equations and the conditions under which air flow can be treated as incompressible. There is no consensus on the definitions and implications of these equations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about flow conditions, such as velocity thresholds for incompressibility, and the implications of friction losses, which remain unresolved.

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Although continuity equation is often part of fluid mechanics, does it have an application in air flow? For example, let's assume we have a frictionless air duct where air is introduced at a constant velocity and temperature. If the air duct varies in dimensions will the flow rate at the end point be equal at all points along the duct?
 
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The mass of air into a duct must equal mass of air flowing out of the duct. What happens in between depends on friction losses, velocity of the air, etc. Gas dynamics is the discipline to study, especially if compressibility effects are suspected of occurring. If the flow velocity is below about 0.3M, then the air flow can be treated as incompressible and treated with the regular equations of fluid mechanics.
 
SteamKing said:
The mass of air into a duct must equal mass of air flowing out of the duct. What happens in between depends on friction losses, velocity of the air, etc. Gas dynamics is the discipline to study, especially if compressibility effects are suspected of occurring. If the flow velocity is below about 0.3M, then the air flow can be treated as incompressible and treated with the regular equations of fluid mechanics.
Perfectly answered, thank you.
 
I'd be careful saying incompressible equations are the "regular equations of fluid mechanics." Really the regular equations are the continuity, Navier-Stokes and energy equations plus an equation of state for any continuous fluid. The equations for incompressible flow are just a simplification of those, so I would argue that the equations for a compressible flow are the "regular equations."

Just silly semantics, I know. I'll drop it now. :-)
 

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