Contradiction in Relativistic Simultaneity in Taylor-Wheeler Spacetime Physics?

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The discussion centers on the interpretation of simultaneity in Taylor and Wheeler's Spacetime Physics, particularly regarding an observer on a moving train witnessing two lightning strikes. It argues that the narrative in figure 3-1 contradicts earlier text by suggesting that the observer's perception of the strikes is flawed due to light travel time. The claim that the observer sees the front flash first is contested, emphasizing that simultaneity is frame-dependent and that the strikes are simultaneous for the embankment observer but not necessarily for the train observer. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding how different frames of reference affect the perception of events in relativity. Ultimately, the conclusion is that while each observer perceives events differently, the laws of physics remain consistent across frames.
  • #61
ghwellsjr said:
,it cannot be true that the light arrives at the remote locations simultaneously for two observers with a speed difference between them.
Have you read post 55 and the related section of Einsteins 1905 Paper? Do you disagree with something in Einsteins analysis?
JM
 
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No, I don't disagree with anything Einstein said or anything you quoted him as saying. Note that he talked about two different frames, the "stationary frame" and the "moving frame".

But you misquoted me, here is what I said:

"The reason you think it's true is because you are switching between frames for the two observers but in anyone frame, it cannot be true that the light arrives at the remote locations simultaneously for two observers with a speed difference between them."

Can't you see that this is in agreement with what Einstein said?
 

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