Convergence of Probability Function for E(|X|)

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of a probability function related to the expected value of the absolute value of a random variable, specifically examining the conditions under which E(|X|) is finite. Participants are exploring the implications of the indicator function and its relationship to the expected value.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are discussing the conditions for E(|X|) to be finite, particularly focusing on the implications of the indicator function I(|X| > n) as n approaches infinity. Questions are raised about the necessity of additional assumptions, such as boundedness of X, and the interpretation of the indicator function.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning the validity of certain statements and exploring different interpretations of the indicator function. Some have provided insights into specific cases, while others are seeking clarification on definitions and assumptions.

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There is a mention of the need for P{|X| > n} to approach zero quickly enough for E(|X|) to be finite, and the potential confusion regarding the meaning of I(|X| > n) is noted. Additionally, the role of boundedness in relation to the expected value is under consideration.

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Hi guys, I have a question.

E(|X|) < infinity iff E|X|I(|X| > n) -> 0 as n goes to infinity, where I is the indicator function.=> this direction is easy and I have it solved.

I wonder if anyone has any idea of how to deal with <=. Thanks.
 
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jk_zhengli said:
Hi guys, is the following statement true?

E(|X|) < infinity iff I(|X| > n) -> 0 as n goes to infinity.


=> this direction is easy and I have it solved. I wonder if <= is true? I think the additional assumption of X is bounded would make it true, but this is condition necessary? Thanks.

What do you mean by I(|X| > n) ? Is it P{|X| > n}, or something else? If that is what you mean, I think the result is false: P{|X| > n}→ 0 is true for ANY random variable on ℝ, because we have P{-n ≤ X ≤ n}→ 1 as n → ∞ for any real-valued X. In order to have E |X| < ∞ you need P{|X| > n} to go to zero quickly enough. For example, the discrete random variable X with probability mass function p(n) = c/n2, n = 1,2,3, ... has E X = ∞. Note, however, that it is not necessary to have X bounded, because many familiar random variables are unbounded but have finite expectations (or even finite moments of all orders).

RGV
 
What is I(|X| > n)? The probability that the absolute value of X is greater than n? If that's the case, have you heard of the Cauchy distribution?

If not, what is I(|X| > n)?
 

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