Convert 24V to 12V for Scooter Horn Wiring

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The discussion centers around methods for converting 24V to 12V for wiring a horn to a scooter. Participants explore various solutions, including the use of resistors, series wiring of horns, and alternative components like voltage regulators and DC-DC converters.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using two identical 12V horns in series as a straightforward solution that avoids power loss.
  • Another participant proposes sourcing a 24V horn from vehicle wreckers as an alternative option.
  • A participant mentions the possibility of using a 7812 voltage regulator, noting the need to calculate the horn's current and power dissipation.
  • It is pointed out that the 7812 regulator may not handle the current required by a typical 12V horn, which could exceed its 1A capability.
  • A later reply recommends using a DC-DC converter as a more efficient solution with less power dissipation.

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Participants present multiple competing views on how to approach the voltage conversion, with no consensus on a single best solution. Various methods are discussed, each with its own considerations and potential drawbacks.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the current requirements of the horn and the power dissipation associated with different solutions, indicating that further calculations may be necessary.

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I recently found a 24v scooter on Craigslist. I would look forward to wiring a horn to it. I don't know what kind of resistor I should use.
 
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Wire two identical 12V horns in series. That is the easiest solution. Alternatively, you are going to need to waste power in a dropper resistor and you would need to work out its value. Two horns in series will produce twice as much noise and waste no power. Plus, you won't need to do any sums!
 
And the other obvious alternative is ...

there are plenty of 24V horns available for trucks etc
take a trip to your local vehicle wreckers and look through the recovered parts.
many wreckers let you look through vehicles yourself and recover the part you need ... take it to the counter and pay for it

Dave
 
Oh Or if I only use one I could just use a 7812!
 
elevfan7072 said:
Oh Or if I only use one I could just use a 7812!

You certainly could, but you will need to figure out the horn current and then how much power that means when you drop 12V across the 7812. Luckily the horn will only be used intermittantly, so it may not take much heat sinking of the 7812 to make it work.

A better solution is to use a DC-DC converter (buck topology) to drop the voltage with little power dissipation. The Simple Switcher series of DC-DC converters from National Instruments is a good place to start if you want to try that route...
 
you will probably find that the current requird by one 12V vehicle type horn well exceeds the 1A capability of a 7812 regulator chip.

Dave
 

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